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Re:2022 Cloud Report by ericmay on Thursday June 16, 2022 @10:31AM (#31766497)
Yes! How awesome is it that we've got companies like AMD, Intel, Nvidia, ARM, Apple + TSMC for M series, and others who are cranking out awesome products?

Sometimes we get lost in the criticism of every little thing that these companies do and forget that honestly, they're all cranking out great products.

Re:2022 Cloud Report by MangoCoffee on Thursday June 16, 2022 @10:43AM (#31766631)
we need a fab competition as well. too many fabless like AMD, Apple...etc. deepened on TSMC
Re:2022 Cloud Report by babypuncher on Thursday June 16, 2022 @11:51AM (#31767456)
Intel is working on expanding their fab capacity and contracting it out like TSMC and Samsung.
Re:2022 Cloud Report by fauigerzigerk on Thursday June 16, 2022 @11:23AM (#31767143)
ASML deserves mentioning as well.
Re:2022 Cloud Report by thg on Thursday June 16, 2022 @11:33AM (#31767267)
Don't forget ZEISS
Re:2022 Cloud Report by BLanen on Thursday June 16, 2022 @12:27PM (#31767938)
No.

Monopolies don't deserve credit.

Re:2022 Cloud Report by FairlyInvolved on Thursday June 16, 2022 @12:57PM (#31768348)
They hold a monopoly of merit, many tried EUV and they succeeded in doing something that others were calling impossible even 5 years before they shipped it, not by shutting down competition but simply because no one else could.

The idea that ASML would somehow be more worthy of merit if Nikon/Canon also succeeded is weird.

Would the moon landing me more impressive if Russia and Japan also managed it?

Re:2022 Cloud Report by jaywalk on Thursday June 16, 2022 @03:52PM (#31770162)
Exactly correct. They're literally more deserving of credit because they've done something that to this day nobody else has been able to do.
Re:2022 Cloud Report by leoc on Thursday June 16, 2022 @10:38AM (#31766582)
Hopefully some serious competition and general normality will return to consumer discrete GPUs sometime soon, too.
Re:2022 Cloud Report by Geonode on Thursday June 16, 2022 @10:54AM (#31766766)
I don't know about competition, but I think we'll see prices bottom out below MSRP before the 4000 level cards come out in the next few months.
Re:2022 Cloud Report by danuker on Thursday June 16, 2022 @11:22AM (#31767129)
Do you think so, because the crypto craze is back in the crypt?
Re:2022 Cloud Report by vitus on Thursday June 16, 2022 @02:07PM (#31769137)
We're already close to that point. Low to mid-end AMD cards are already available at / below MSRP (e.g. 6600XT), and nVidia cards no longer command a > 2x premium across the board.

At the height of the craze, I saw a five-year-old card, the GTX 1050 (not even Ti!), going for over 200.

https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/video-card/

From February: https://www.techradar.com/deals/looking-for-a-gpu-dont-buy-y...

Re:2022 Cloud Report by Geonode on Thursday June 16, 2022 @03:26PM (#31769925)
Yep, the secondhand market is getting flooded.
Re:2022 Cloud Report by babypuncher on Thursday June 16, 2022 @11:53AM (#31767482)
GPU prices are already coming back to earth, thanks to both improved availability and the collapse of crypto mining.