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Re:Despite best efforts .NET is still not an open platform by ClumsyPilot on Thursday June 16, 2022 @05:23AM (#31764003)
> IKEA has had an outsized positive impact

IKEA has been illegally logging forests in romania for decades.

The first public conpany was involved in slavery. Show me a large enough company and there will be a history of fraud, illegality and human rights abuses.

Re:Despite best efforts .NET is still not an open platform by simonh on Thursday June 16, 2022 @05:56AM (#31764207)
They've bee caught using wood from companies logging illegally yes, but that's just as much an enforcement issue in these countries as it is on IKEA to manage it's supply chain.

Also using tainted wood isn't the only thing IKEA has ever done, just as breaking the speed limit or parking illegally isn't he only thing I've ever done. If you were held to a "one strike and you're out" good/evil standard would you really stand up? I know I wouldn't.

Re:Despite best efforts .NET is still not an open platform by legulere on Thursday June 16, 2022 @07:27AM (#31764741)
Intermediaries are often just an easy way to get out of liability. It can happen to small companies that you don't know about or are powerless to your supplier's illegal practices. With big companies you know and have the power, which makes it your responsibility and you being part of the problem.

There's also a trend to give big companies liability for their supply chains. Germany just enacted a supply chain law last year and there are talks about similar laws for the EU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_Chain_Act

Re:Despite best efforts .NET is still not an open platform by simonh on Thursday June 16, 2022 @07:50AM (#31764892)
Yep, that's fair enough. I don't buy "therefore evil" though, companies like the people they are composed of are complicated.
Re:Despite best efforts .NET is still not an open platform by gwright on Thursday June 16, 2022 @09:54AM (#31766060)
> Show me a large enough company and there will be a history

The specificity of your comment (large enough company) is misleading. The flaws you call out are everywhere, not just large companies.

Humans are imperfect. Human organizations and institutions (companies of all sizes, governments of all types, schools, churches, and so on) are also imperfect.

I don't mean to say that we shouldn't set high goals, devise mechanisms to deal with imperfection and so on (checks and balances, regulations, etc), just that there isn't anything particularly unique about "large companies" in this regard.