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Re:James Fallows on the vulnerabilities of the cloud after w... by potatolicious on Sunday October 30, 2011 @11:21PM (#3176236)
I've said this before, and I will say this again.

Email is a service worth paying for. It is quite possibly the primary method of official communications between you and anyone else these days, far surpassing the volume of paper correspondences you have.

So why are we using free services that offer no guarantees, no SLAs, and no support - for anything other than throwaways accounts?

I run my own server, but this is hardly necessary for the majority of the world. What you do want is a server that backs you up constantly, and can respond to precisely issues like these.

Re:James Fallows on the vulnerabilities of the cloud after w... by Codayus on Sunday October 30, 2011 @11:36PM (#3176263)
Okay. So who is offering a service that can match Google's offering? In particular, they need to offer a good (ie, at least as good as Google's) webmail client and spam filtering.
Re:James Fallows on the vulnerabilities of the cloud after w... by RossP on Sunday October 30, 2011 @11:54PM (#3176299)
I use www.fastmail.fm (owned by Opera) and can't recommend them highly enough. For a family or small business it's great as you can have shared folders/address books, use your own domain(s), and more.

The web mail doesn't include tagging or inline conversations but otherwise it's pretty good with not too much wastage. Of course you also have IMAP/POP access if that's your flavour.

Re:James Fallows on the vulnerabilities of the cloud after w... by radiowave on Monday October 31, 2011 @11:37AM (#3177730)
Another happy fastmail user here, of about 9 years. Agreed, it's worth paying for.
Re:James Fallows on the vulnerabilities of the cloud after w... by potatolicious on Monday October 31, 2011 @02:45AM (#3176607)
It'd be nice if there was anything out there one could install that was as good as GMail's frontend, but sadly that doesn't exist.

I don't miss it at all though - I find that 99% of my email needs are on desktop and mobile, and the native clients on just about any such platforms are more than a match for GMail.

I still have a webmail client I fall back to - nothing quite as good as GMail, but that's more for when I need to look something up on a public terminal.

On the flip side - I gain an unhijackable account. Worst case scenario they make off with all of my information, but I never lose ownership of the account. I also know my server's backup policies, so short of cracking my host wide open they can copy my data, but never destroy it.

Re:James Fallows on the vulnerabilities of the cloud after w... by tomsaffell on Monday October 31, 2011 @01:24AM (#3176484)
Re:James Fallows on the vulnerabilities of the cloud after w... by chii on Monday October 31, 2011 @02:49AM (#3176612)
Google Apps will have the same vulnerabilities as the real gmail - they are the same suit of software after all.

The only consolation is that google apps do run a version or two behind, so it is probably better tested and have most problems nutted out.