Re:Nuclear is back on the table for a green future
by pfdietz on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @07:37PM
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"The fact". I think not.
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Re:Nuclear is back on the table for a green future
by Andrew_nenakhov on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @07:46PM
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There is an abundance of data, if one is willing to look. Just first links from DDG:
"Has Russia Been Financing Western Environmentalism?" (2022) [1]
"Putin Is Funding Green Groups to Discredit Natural Gas Fracking" (2017) [2]
"German green group branded a Russian ‘puppet’ over Nord Stream II gas pipeline" (2021) [3]
[1]: https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18330/russia-funding-envi...
[2]: https://www.newsweek.com/putin-funding-green-groups-discredi...
[3]: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/german-green-group-brande...
Re:Nuclear is back on the table for a green future
by pfdietz on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @08:22PM
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This is a load of conspiracy theoretic BS, starting from the nonsense position that environmental groups are the source of nuclear's failure.
Re:Nuclear is back on the table for a green future
by Andrew_nenakhov on Thursday June 16, 2022 @01:04AM
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Yeah right, "Independent fact-checkers said the information is false".
The greens in Germany have consistently worked on destroying Germany's nuclear energy generation, and now it is completely dependent on gas import from Russia, funding Putin's war with Ukraine.
Re:Nuclear is back on the table for a green future
by pfdietz on Thursday June 16, 2022 @08:02AM
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I can fully agree that green groups have opposed nuclear.
I call bullshit on the absurd idea that the global failure of nuclear is due to these groups.
Re:Nuclear is back on the table for a green future
by Andrew_nenakhov on Thursday June 16, 2022 @11:07AM
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I can hardly call nuclear energy to be a 'global failure'. True, 'green' groups had some success with scaremongering people to be afraid of nuclear energy, but it is generating 10% of energy globally (projected to rise to 15% by 2030 [1] ), with much higher shares in developed countries. If anything, the Fukushima effect has finally weared out, and we'll see new plants constructed which were halted because of that scaremongering.
Re:Nuclear is back on the table for a green future
by pfdietz on Thursday June 16, 2022 @12:55PM
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Well, it obviously is a global failure. It exists in places where people can be forced to pay for it. There is not a single competitive energy market where merchant nuclear reactors have been built to compete in that market. That's because it's just too expensive. Sure, reactors have been built to exploit monopolies, and where political considerations trump economic ones. That's nothing to be proud of.
Re:Nuclear is back on the table for a green future
by Andrew_nenakhov on Thursday June 16, 2022 @07:56PM
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Just because you repeat it again and again, and use the word "obvious", nuclear power does not become a 'global failure'. I fail to see any arguments in your posts, just NUCLEAR BAD slogans.