> Several of these countries were created by the actions of Russian government.

Which ones?

I think that's Bulgaria, Romania and Moldavia, but maybe more. And, of course, Ukraine and Belarus. Maybe some of Balkan states as well if you count them as eastern european.

OK, and Russia caused the pogroms and a genocidal famine in Ukraine. It's not a good idea to learn your country's history in an overly rosy way. In fact, being kind to nationalists may have caused the present war. Russians should know that their country has had a sordid history.

Soviet regime has caused famine in present day Ukraine, southern Russia, Volga region and Kazakhstan. Most of those who starved (arithmetically) were in what is present day Russian Federation.

Are you sure you can tell propaganda from history?

"Russia caused the pogroms" (sic) is another gem of same quality.

I wonder if you could point to a country which does not have "sordid history". But if you ever want to have a dialogue with Russian as opposed to war, you can start by not pretending that you don't have your own "sordid history" and is allowed to judge others.

> I wonder if you could point to a country which does not have "sordid history". But if you ever want to have a dialogue with Russian as opposed to war, you can start by not pretending that you don't have your own "sordid history" and is allowed to judge others.

Indeed. And the problem is nationalism. Every country has had a shameful past. But Putin, that fascist and crackpot, who Russians largely admire, is in denial about that.

It can be said of Ukraine. Its nationalistic desire to be a solid Ukrainian nation ("above everything else"), instead of a federation comprised of very diverse parts for whom just being together requires a lot of searching for a middle ground and compromises.

>...But if you ever want to have a dialogue with Russian as opposed to war...

As opposed to the war ...indeed.

Here it goes again, everyone still needs to learn how to treat russians.

Well, finally, the world has figured it out and summarized it succintly in the manner russia treats the rest of the world:

"Russian ship go f...!"

That's the gist of it. Human history is war.

Even Fukuyama has now retracted his paradigm that the history is over.

Prepare for a lot of war, hope you enjoy it. And not even with Russia.

> "Russian ship go f...!"

I think that phrase is a fake. However, these guys were captured, then declared dead, then surrendered and kept in captivity for some time. To put that in perspective. And that is real.