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Re:Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees by googlryas on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @05:29PM (#31746322)
What about surging valuations in the equities market? If I'm worth $1B for a few moments because of a surging valuation, and then the government takes $900M of that, and then the stock crashes back to 1/100th of its peak, do I get my shares back?
Re:Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees by Apocryphon on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @05:32PM (#31746355)
Just as current income taxes have a hard deadline in which financial assets are assessed, your extreme edge case is only applicable one day a year, rendering it ever the more trivial.

Not to mention, the calculation for wealth would probably be based on something less temporary than a fleeting moment in the markets.

Finally, the government would not directly take shares, so they would always be owned by you. Presumably with the stock price so much reduced you can simply purchase more at a pittance.

Re:Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees by googlryas on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @05:53PM (#31746526)
I'm not sure if I would particularly care that it was just an edge case that caused me to miss out on $99M.

They wouldn't take shares, but I would be forced to sell shares in order to pay the tax bill, because I don't actually have that money just laying around. So I had 10M shares @ $1/share, share prices go up to $100/share. I get hit with a $900M tax bill and sell 9M shares in order to pay it. Price goes back down to $1/share, leaving me with 1M shares. How exactly should I purchase more at a pittance? I spent all the money I didn't even have paying the tax bill, there's nothing left in my bank account to buy any shares.

Re:Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees by Apocryphon on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @05:56PM (#31746553)
Buy it on margin, if the price has gone down so low you can easily get it approved
Re:Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees by googlryas on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @06:36PM (#31746883)
Taking out a loan against an asset to buy more of that asset sounds like a horrible financial move.
Re:Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees by Apocryphon on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @06:40PM (#31746916)
You can use your existing 1M shares as collateral
Re:Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees by googlryas on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:22PM (#31748423)
Right...use your shares in XYZ as collateral to take out a loan to buy more shares of XYZ.

That sounds like horrible financial advice.

Re:Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees by Apocryphon on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:30PM (#31748461)
In the grim future of the strawman, many such cases abound
Re:Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees by googlryas on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @11:09PM (#31748692)
Still not sure where the straw man was.
Re:Coinbase lays off around 1,100 employees by Apocryphon on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @11:14PM (#31748730)
Ssh. It’s okay. It can’t get to you now.