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Re:Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to a... by TekMol on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:18AM (#31739885)

    they can still track you based on your
    account (e.g. Gmail, Hotmail, iCloud)
Really? I don't think so. How would that work? If you visit www.somesite.com - how would javascript on that site identify you via Gmail?
Re:Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to a... by candiodari on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:39AM (#31740202)
Okay:

1) you visit to www.somesite.com

2) it serves an ad <iframe src="www.google.com/givemeanad?userforme=waps&hespent=500"

3) your browser does a request to google. It sends:

a) your login cookie from your gmail session (or ...)

b) the referrer header tells it which site to serve the ad on

c) any information the site itself wants to attach to the request

4) Google/Microsoft/Apple store this information and can provide advertisers with your identity, all sites you visit that have their ads, the "flow" (what you visited in what order, e.g. how far did you get in an ordering funnel) and any information those sites share about your account on their site.

Re:Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to a... by nightpool on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @11:29AM (#31740929)
Okay, but: a) is blocked by site partitioning, b) doesn't have per-user tracking information, and c) only works (of course) if you've explicitly signed in with Google on that site. I don't think Google supports third-party tracking for ads via that personalization path yet, but plenty of non-Google advertisers do: they take your hashed email address and use that to replace their third-party tracking cookies. This is what the ad community is hailing as their "privacy first" approach that breaks Google's "monopoly"—sending your email address to every single advertiser who they partner with.
Re:Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to a... by pilsetnieks on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:25AM (#31739995)
Because Google's, Apple's and Microsoft's accounts specifically are tied to their particular browser and/or OS, not just the websites you're on.

So are Firefox accounts but they probably don't have the numbers to engage in any particularly egregious behavior.

Re:Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to a... by TekMol on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:32AM (#31740114)
What kind of mechanic are you describing? Are you saying the browser is phoning home, telling Google which sites you visit?
Re:Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to a... by pilsetnieks on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:37AM (#31740186)
Yes. You can turn it off, though, if you take Google at its word.

https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/54068?hl=en&co=G...

Re:Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to a... by chefandy on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:45AM (#31740288)
Well, Chrome obviously does if you’re ‘signed in’ to Google and haven’t turned off their sync settings… which I imagine is the most common end user path, and chrome is the most popular browser. https://www.google.com/chrome/privacy/
Re:Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to a... by nightpool on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @11:25AM (#31740850)
Are you saying that Google is using their control of the user agent to specifically tie a Google auth cookie to an individual third-party-context web request even when third party cookies are blocked? If so, that would be a major scandal. What evidence do you have that this is the case?
Re:Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to a... by lucideer on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @10:23AM (#31739967)
What application are you using to visit that site?