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Re:Google backs gay marriage by bdr on Saturday September 27, 2008 @11:31PM (#317379)
I don't think they took this stand to be edgy, or to allocate brand capital towards some public good. They took it because their employees wanted them to, complemented by a personal belief that it's the morally right position to take. Microsoft was going to take a similar position several years ago -- also from employee pressure -- but backed down.

Edit: Here's what I'm referring to: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04...

Re:Google backs gay marriage by _xajm on Sunday September 28, 2008 @02:14AM (#317466)
Yeah, my point is not that there's anything wrong with being edgy or allocating brand for some public good. Look at Bono and the One campaign for example.

The point is that Sergey has many "public good" issues to choose from. Some issues will have far greater impact on relieving suffering in this world - especially for those who have little or no voice themselves. Some issues will have a much smaller impact, especially for those who already have a lot of power and are wealthy and very vocal about their issues. Some issues will be very divisive among Google shareholders and users. Some issues will be very uniting.

It's really a matter of choosing what to do with your resources - and Google is a public company now - not a privately owned company by Larry and Sergey. Employees and shareholders are on both sides of this issue - what may be 'obviously the right thing to do' for some of his shareholders is 'obviously the wrong thing to do' for others. This is a divisive move for his company on an issue trying to help already very powerful and wealthy advocates. To spend brand capital so heavily and unilaterally like this when you could be doing so much good elsewhere and at the same time build unity among shareholders and strengthen your brand - just seems like a poor decision.

Re:Google backs gay marriage by bdr on Sunday September 28, 2008 @03:51AM (#317497)
And my point is that they aren't doing this to maximize the public good under some moral calculus. Google has nothing to do with AIDS orphans in Africa.
Re:Google backs gay marriage by _xajm on Sunday September 28, 2008 @03:09PM (#317763)
It's very unpopular to do "moral calculus" - generally only economists will really do it. For a great presentation on prioritizing solutions or "moral calculus" as you call it, see: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/bjorn_lomborg_sets_global...

If Google has nothing to do with AIDS orphans in Africa - that's their choice. Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Bono, etc would normally have "nothing to do with AIDS orphans in Africa", yet they have chosen to.

Re:Google backs gay marriage by unalone on Sunday September 28, 2008 @04:58PM (#317828)
You're being pretty rude, dissing Google for not doing "enough" good.

They're a corporation. They make money offering us products that we like. They've made a very GOOD set of products, and I still use several daily. That's the end of my relationship with them. If they're supporting gay marriage, that's great of them, I'm proud of them, but it doesn't affect my using their product. They are not obligated to do anything more, and your getting snotty about their not doing something OBLIGATED is pretty awful and self-righteous.

Gates and Buffett and Bono are doing good stuff. Be happy for them. Don't use them to denounce other companies.

Re:Google backs gay marriage by DabAsteroid on Monday September 29, 2008 @08:45AM (#318296)
A "moral calculus" is not something that one "does". Dictionary definition of calculus:

a system or arrangement of intricate or interrelated parts <the calculus of forces in world affairs — Martin Mayer>

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A moral calculus is a moral system. The moral calculus is the moral system.