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Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence by scott_w on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @07:30AM (#31737520)
Truss is moving to break a treaty to appease the far right nutters in her party.

Javid, as Home Secretary, stripped a teenager of her British citizenship, leaving her stateless and stranded somewhere in Iraq or Syria.

Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence by forgingahead on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @07:56AM (#31737799)
For those reading along, the "teenager" being referenced is Shamima Begum, who ran away from home when she was 15 to allegedly join ISIS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamima_Begum

There's an interesting discussion to be had about whether a government official can strip someone of their citizenship (even though in the UK it seems to be part of their powers under the Nationality Act) - it's not correct to frame this emotionally under "deported a teenager" when there are specific issues at play here. Same with slandering anyone who is not politically aligned with you as "far right".

Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence by scott_w on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @07:59AM (#31737838)
I didn’t say he deported a teenager. I said he stripped her citizenship, leaving her stateless to die in service of appealing to racists to vote Tory.
Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence by Veen on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @07:54AM (#31737777)
The teenager is a terrorist sympathiser who left the UK to join Isis. And she isn’t a teenager any more.
Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence by scott_w on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @07:58AM (#31737824)
Irrespective of what she may or may not have done, her citizenship was stripped on flimsy legal pretexts to satisfy their racist supporters.
Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence by Veen on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @12:45PM (#31742096)
That's total bollocks.
Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence by rayiner on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @07:59AM (#31737837)
If I’m thinking of the same person, she’s ethnically Bangladeshi. But Bangladesh wouldn’t let her back in the country even though it has a right of return for people of Bangladeshi ethnicity: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/bangladesh-will-not-ac...

Bangladesh is an officially socialist country. You’re just defining “far right” to include everyone who disagrees with a narrow view of immigration.

Regarding your sibling comment: is Bangladesh “racist” against Bangladeshis for not taking her? What an absurd smear.

Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence by scott_w on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @08:13AM (#31738024)
I never said Javid was a racist, I said the policy to deport black and brown refugees to Rwanda, while not treating Ukrainian refugees the same way was racist. This should be self-evident by just looking at the facts.

You’re making another false equivalence with Bangladesh when Begum was born and raised in the U.K. and had never been to Bangladesh. And then trying to use that in bad faith to insinuate things I never said.

Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence by rayiner on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @08:48AM (#31738566)
In a sibling comment you said he was “appealing to racists” by blocking Begum’s return. My question is whether Bangladeshis are racists for the same reason?

And it’s not a false equivalence. Bangladesh has special rules for return of children of people of Bangladeshi origin. My brother was born in Virginia but could travel back to Bangladesh without meeting the usual immigration conditions by showing proof of our parent’s birth in Bangladesh. Begum was in the same position. But Bangladesh isn’t as sympathetic to terrorists as some folks in the UK.