Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence
by eyko on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @07:21AM
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Nationalism in the context of SNP (and as a concept in general) simply refers to the desire/belief that the state and nation should be synonymous. The problem is that not everyone's interpretation of national identity is the same, so the in the end all you get is populism used to push a belief. The answer to the question "What is Scotland, anyway?" is not as clear as politicians would like it to be.
Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence
by smcl on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @08:27AM
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Ok but in real-world usage "nationalist = far right = nazis = bad". So I was clarifying that while that is not untrue, nobody is saying the Scottish independence movement or the SNP are that.
Re:Scotland starts renewed case for independence
by eyko on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @11:11AM
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It might be regional or very US/UK specific. In many parts of the world nationalism is also associated with left wing separatist movements. For example, in Spain we have ETA[1], and in Turkey the PKK[2].
I've never specifically associated it with neither left nor right because in my country we have both right and left wing nationalist movements. Yes, far right nationalism is often fascism, nazism, jingoism, etc. but this isn't the only type of nationalism, and we don't use nationalism as a synonym for nazism/fascism, except when speaking specifically in the context of right wing nationalist groups.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA_(separatist_group) 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers%27_Party
1. "far-right beliefs that centre on religious and ethnic hatred"
2. or, "a desire to become an independent nation"
In this case when people say the SNP is nationalist it's the second - their policy is that Scotland should be an independent country. For what it's worth they seem to have a strong pro-immigration stance[0] and a belief in racial equality[1], which are usually things type #1 nationalists are heavily against - so take from that what you will.
[0] - https://www.snp.org/policies/pb-what-is-the-snp-s-policy-on-...
[1] - https://www.snp.org/policies/pb-what-actions-are-the-snp-tak...