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Re:Finally, no bid on mortgage-backed securities by bigDinosaur on Monday June 13, 2022 @05:58AM (#31723212)
Those are just two cities in two countries but you're ignoring Spain (Barcelona, Seville), France (Paris, Lyon), England (London), Italy where there are pretty extensive plans in cities like Milan, Germany which would be perfectly fine for cycling, ditto for the Nordics, and people also cycle a lot in Finland despite the cold. Also cities in NA like Montreal which are dramatically expanding their cycling network and already have fairly good ridership on the protected routes.

Yes, in places like Montreal they face a lot of opposition from car owners who literally seem to ignore that the only reason you can drive in heavy snow is because the snow gets cleared by pretty major logistics networks.

I've rarely been to a city that couldn't be a good cycling city at least for huge parts of the year, even if not a complete solution - does anyone who is pro-bicycle argue against extensive and effective public transport?

Re:Finally, no bid on mortgage-backed securities by jseban on Monday June 13, 2022 @06:32AM (#31723451)
> and people also cycle a lot in Finland despite the cold

Yeah and how much is this exactly? Even with perfect cycling infrastructure it's something like 12% of trips. Go to finland or sweden in the middle of the winter, observe the bike lanes and see for yourself how much they are used. Hint, they are largely empty, which comes as no surprise considering how obviously impractical and uncomfortable it is. And they cost a ton of money in maintenance.

Re:Finally, no bid on mortgage-backed securities by piva00 on Monday June 13, 2022 @06:53AM (#31723621)
> And they cost a ton of money in maintenance.

A lot less than the roads for automobiles, and I regularly use the bike lanes in Sweden during all seasons and have no issues with that despite being originally from a warm country.

What a weird rant to come after bike lanes because "they are expensive and just virtue signalling", jesus.

Re:Finally, no bid on mortgage-backed securities by jseban on Monday June 13, 2022 @07:11AM (#31723766)
It doesn't matter if you regularly do it, most people do not. We live in a democracy and we should not spend tax money and public space to accommodate for a small minority of enthusiasts who like to be inefficient, despite our whole society motivating us to do the opposite.

Bike lanes are like gym memberships, people like the idea and buy into it, but in reality they are too lazy, and don't have the time to actually do it. And it just ends up being a waste of money on duplicated infrastructure, because you still need to cover 100% of the capacity in public transport for the rainy days.

Re:Finally, no bid on mortgage-backed securities by gruturo on Monday June 13, 2022 @10:46AM (#31726339)
> Bike lanes are like gym memberships, people like the idea and buy into it, but in reality they are too lazy, and don't have the time to actually do it. And it just ends up being a waste of money on duplicated infrastructure, because you still need to cover 100% of the capacity in public transport for the rainy days.

This was me before an ebike. I now use it absolutely every day, when the weather allows.

Re:Finally, no bid on mortgage-backed securities by bigDinosaur on Friday June 17, 2022 @12:15AM (#31774055)
None of this is fact, and it's funny you think it's the people who are pro-bicycle who are in fact the lazy ones, not the people who choose to drive literally everywhere.
Re:Finally, no bid on mortgage-backed securities by piva00 on Monday June 13, 2022 @07:26AM (#31723910)
You surely need some numbers to back up this argument somehow...