This. And actually only up until a while ago did my co-workers still think using Vim was just some weird flex. Then a live coding session which was not about Vim at all I did somehow showcased how fast I was able to be in Vim, now everyone is interested in obtaining the superpower.

That being said I'm still extremely grateful for what Microsoft has done in standardising things like LSP, DAP, etc. It changed the game for Vim, Emacs, Kakoune, not to mention new players like Helix.

Absolutely.

On a tangential note, "Your problem with vim is that you don't grok vi" continues to be a favourite read: https://gist.github.com/nifl/1178878

Thank you, I might give vi another go.

Btw, for reading, raw version is better: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/nifl/1178878/raw/2a20bba8...

the problem isn't the process of using vim. I like that part. The part i dislike is the ecosystem of plugins and extension points.

Yes. Learning Vim has had the best ROI for my time of any other tool I've learned over the years (git comes close though). Not only is it a great general-purpose editor, but it's available on every machine I interact with.

90% of the time, I'm writing code that vim wouldn't help with, and that 10% never seems to make up for the investment cost of learning it, especially because I'd probably forget the commands between uses. However I do respect vim users.

I'm curious now. What code are you editing that vim could not help with, what tools do you use that do help with this code, and why?

I always come back to vim. Sure there are "vim mode" options for VS Code, Jetbrains products, Xcode, whatever else, but there is a speed and ergonomics to regular old vim that none of those bolted-on modes have matched yet. And with some setup you can get the same LSP features in vim that you have in VS Code today.

Interview with a VIM Enthusiast 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n1dtmzqnCU

"You don't really need a career once you know Vim. Vim is your career now. What's a career anyway?"

VScode is much more than an editor. Plus, you can run it in VIM mode for editing.

Features also come but not to Vim.

They absolutely do. See coc.vim which is a compatibility shim that lets you run a huge number of VS Code extensions in vim with minimal modifications. Also see Neovim which is a vim fork that has very good builtin language-server support.

I didn't mean no features come to Vim.