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Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by heavyset_go on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:19PM (#31709876)
It doesn't help that Tesla's own marketing confuses the two features. For example, their marketing material for Autopilot sure sounds like it's describing a feature called "Full Self-Driving"[1]:

> The person in the driver’s seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself.

That very same embedded video from Tesla has the title "Autopilot Full Self-Driving Hardware"[2], as well, further confusing the two.

[1] https://www.tesla.com/videos/autopilot-self-driving-hardware...

[2] https://vimeo.com/192179727?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&...

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Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by arka2147483647 on Sunday June 12, 2022 @01:54AM (#31711851)
To me it seems that Teslas goal was to get to ”full self driving” by now.

If Musks moonshot had been successfull, we would not be having this discussion now.

But it was not, and now Tesla is in trouble because they can’t deliver what people think they were promised.

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Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by buran77 on Sunday June 12, 2022 @04:46AM (#31712887)
> people think they were promised

When so many people "think" they were promised something then the more likely explanation is that the promises were misleading.

I think this was Tesla's strategy and it was a winning one too. Tesla got a lot of cash from that promise, helping it be the company it is now. But the strategy is also a victim of its own success because there comes a point to deliver on the promise and you can only delay that by doubling up on the promise for so long. Then so many people start asking questions at the same time it's like a bank run. The strategy goes bankrupt unless it can actually deliver.

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Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by tsimionescu on Sunday June 12, 2022 @03:09AM (#31712268)
> they can’t deliver what people think they were promised. [emphasis mine]

Tesla isn't delivering what people not only were promised, but were actually sold for real money.

Musk very explicitly claimed in consumer shows that FSD would allow your Tesla not just to safely drive you around, but allow you to use it as a robotaxi, making money for you while you're at your own job.

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Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by chihuahua on Sunday June 12, 2022 @05:44AM (#31713234)
What a great idea. When I buy a $70,000 car, I would like to use it as a robotaxi so that random people can use it as a bathroom or a diaper changing station, and test the sharpness of their EDC knives on the seats. Perhaps Elon can add some AI feature that detects vandalism and responds with a bleating noise.

I would find this very rewarding and lucrative.

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Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by tsimionescu on Sunday June 12, 2022 @06:04AM (#31713330)
Well, according to his pitch [0], in 3 years it will be financially irresponsible to buy something that doesn't make its value back like this.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8TLsdpYsow

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Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by Dylan16807 on Sunday June 12, 2022 @05:37AM (#31713202)
He funded another team to work on the same problem many teams had been working on for a long time, and he wasn't bringing anything significantly new to the mix. Maybe that qualifies as a moonshot but it's not what I normally think of for the positive connotations of the word. Tesla should have had a better handle on timescale.
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