Yes that would be a close enough definition of what I meant. But I am also not sure if some TVs come with built in cameras. I don’t want those either. I am not happy with, but willing to tolerate, the “what I am watching” tracking that comes with say Apple TV. The 42” LG monitor with remote and speakers suggested elsewhere sounds interesting. Thanks all for the suggestions plus related discussions. The unrelated discussions are also very welcome. They are what give HN its “unique” flavor.

I ended up buying a cheap TCL brand TV a while ago. It still had all the smart features (which I didnt want) but at least it did have a physical switch to disable the microphone.

If the TV has no Internet connection, the mic is useless. I use an Amazon Firestick in developer mode connected to a network that uses a P-hole and other mitigation efforts to keep all the nasty tracking, beacons, etc. minimized. Nothing is 100%, but we can come close. What I'd like to see is a browser that doesn't allow scanning of fonts, etc. There has to be a way to perhaps fake what they can see and poison their data collection.

Better check for more microphones. They are like potato chips. Bet they can't install just one ;).