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Re:Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” fe... by bbarnett on Saturday June 11, 2022 @04:31PM (#31708071)
If true, this is an excellent chance for white hat flooding.

Knock, and keep that ip offline. With no way to change locationation(DNS), their little ad sceme won't work.

Even better if it makes companies shy about using such methods.

Re:Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” fe... by happyopossum on Saturday June 11, 2022 @05:42PM (#31708716)
Well, no - GP an isn’t exactly correct. They use DNS, they just won’t use your configured DNS. You can play NAT tricks to force all UDP dns queries to your pihole or other DNS based blocker, but they can just as easily use DOH.
Re:Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” fe... by AlexAndScripts on Saturday June 11, 2022 @05:54PM (#31708827)
That's grey hat. Arguably ethical... Ish... But entirely illegal and done without consent.
Re:Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” fe... by jsjohnst on Saturday June 11, 2022 @04:39PM (#31708146)
> white hat flooding

Very curious definition of “white hat” you have

Re:Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” fe... by beanders on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:33PM (#31709975)
This would be what I term “green hat”, gray with a flavor of robbing the rich to feed the poor.
Re:Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” fe... by bbarnett on Saturday June 11, 2022 @04:51PM (#31708263)
A white hat works for the public good, yes?
Re:Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” fe... by gruez on Saturday June 11, 2022 @05:01PM (#31708365)
Close, but no.

>A white hat (or a white hat hacker) is an ethical security hacker.[1] Ethical hacking is a term meant to imply a broader category than just penetration testing.[2][3] Under the owner's consent, white hat hackers aim to identify any vulnerabilities the current system has. [...] There is a third kind of hacker known as a grey hat who hacks with good intentions but at times without permission.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hat_(computer_security)

Re:Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” fe... by fragmede on Saturday June 11, 2022 @06:00PM (#31708865)
traditionally, white hat means working with companies to help identify weaknesses in their systems, and getting inside with their consent.
Re:Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” fe... by User23 on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:36PM (#31710002)
That sounds like helping to secure my home network from unwanted spyware and tracking to me.
Re:Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” fe... by jsjohnst on Saturday June 11, 2022 @04:59PM (#31708343)
Sure, but is vigilantism for the public good?