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Re:Taiwan to Deploy ‘Bee Eye’ Radars Near Chinese Mainland by throw10920 on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:48PM (#31705914)
> China is likely to never attack Taiwan as long as the status quo is maintained, and as long as they believe that eventual peaceful reunification is possible.

Put another way: if the people of Taiwan decide that they don't want reunification, then China is going to invade and take them by force.

Re:Taiwan to Deploy ‘Bee Eye’ Radars Near Chinese Mainland by liuliu on Saturday June 11, 2022 @01:07PM (#31706078)
Yes? That's literally what CCP's threat about and what they considered to be the red-line (i.e. any vote for independence would meet with military action).
Re:Taiwan to Deploy ‘Bee Eye’ Radars Near Chinese Mainland by imwillofficial on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:52PM (#31705946)
That’s not what was said whatsoever.

Make your own comments, don’t try and fail to interpret others’ comments and restate them.

Re:Taiwan to Deploy ‘Bee Eye’ Radars Near Chinese Mainland by mdp2021 on Saturday June 11, 2022 @02:51PM (#31707080)
That looks like "drawing conclusions", not like "attributing thoughts".

"B wants stasis¹" // "Hence if A breaks it by removing doubts, B will act" - this is what was actually diplomatically declared, reminded, renewed in the past hours.

¹"stasis" - not the most proper expression of what is sought, but just to remain close to the original post in question.

Re:Taiwan to Deploy ‘Bee Eye’ Radars Near Chinese Mainland by imwillofficial on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @02:45PM (#31757459)
It doesn’t look like “drawing conclusions at all”

They said “Put another way:” That is literally restating what the OG commenter said but with spin.

Re:Taiwan to Deploy ‘Bee Eye’ Radars Near Chinese Mainland by mdp2021 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @03:58PM (#31758617)
Seems fully legit. «Put another way» completes what the original poster wrote, in a different telling perspective.

The OP said, "A will refrain from B under condition C: the general intention of A is to refrain from B".

The replying poster noted, "Admitting that A intends to refrain from B under condition C, the intention is also not to refrain from B, failing condition C".

The replying poster is correctly noting that the relation is not just "C→¬B", but "C→¬B ∧ ¬C→B".

FooBarWidget notes one half of the story; throw10920 remarks that the other half is also present. Correctly one states - reassuringly - "do not see a false extreme: B is not an absolute set intention", but the other notes that at the same time it should not be forgotten that "B is a set conditional intention". Which is what A has stated for a long time: "the reunification will happen: peacefully if possible, coercively otherwise".

The 'put another way' formula is logically imperfect but rhetorically admissible, it is in a clear context. Of course throw10920 did not "repeat" what FooBarWidget wrote, «what was said»: he proceeded in the debate from the immediately preceding move posing a new "line".

It is a "put another way" not in terms of restricting to the original poster's idea (thus re-reading it), but starting from the poster's idea in the context of given information.