Vladimir Putin, in speech, hints at further territorial expansion for Russia

Re:Vladimir Putin, in speech, hints at further territorial e... by zemvpferreira on Friday June 10, 2022 @03:08PM (#31698206)

Has it been worth the price for Ukraine, and the common people who paid it with their lives? Couldn't the same point be made regarding the US? Would every Iraqi be in favour of the West being the only military power on Earth?

A good place to note I fully condemn Russia for the invasion and loss of lives... I just don't find it surprising in the least and do think NATO expansion catalysed much preventable harm.

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Re:Vladimir Putin, in speech, hints at further territorial e... by distances on Friday June 10, 2022 @03:15PM (#31698286)

Ukraine did not join NATO, and it's not ok to draw a direct line between former Warsaw Pact countries joining NATO and the current war in Ukraine.

Also, as said you shouldn't say "NATO expansion". That's the imperialistic Russian viewpoint. NATO doesn't expand, countries join the alliance.

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Re:Vladimir Putin, in speech, hints at further territorial e... by zemvpferreira on Friday June 10, 2022 @07:23PM (#31700444)

And I repeat that that's a very naive point of view. NATO absolutely expands and is aligned with a political point of view. I'm part of it and presumably so are you, but that doesn't give it magical properties. Ignoring NATO's historical context does no good.

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