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Re:No Army? No Problem: Defending the Home Front in Ancient ... by hrgiger on Friday June 10, 2022 @08:32AM (#31693144)
Heya Turkish guy here, some points you mention I agree (our secularism, administration), but I found your lobbying approach for cheering for war and weapons quite disturbing, I love Greek people, we have many commons and differences, when I share my projects or work publicly I always think there is many otherside think like me, peaceful minds concentrated on development rather than destruction. Elections are due we will show our response to that administration as well. Hope we will have better discussions then.
Re:No Army? No Problem: Defending the Home Front in Ancient ... by planetis on Friday June 10, 2022 @09:40AM (#31694029)
(Original message re-posted to prove there is no cheering for war from my side, that's false information): Contrast this to the present day, where Turkish president, due to the worsening economy and the June 2023 elections and the successful diplomatic trip of his Greek counterpart to the US, has went on a sickening game of war threats on a daily basis. A map of the chronic Turkish revisionism has been released by the Greek foreign ministry in an attempt to counter his warmongering with logical arguments. NATO should see who is tripping the alliance, acting on the benefit of Russia ...and finally accept that Turkey has become the new Iran, it's views no longer aligns with the West. A strong army is a must, and after a decade of economic crisis, Greece has a lot of catching up to do.

[1]: https://twitter.com/GreeceMFA/status/1534867984476516354

Re:No Army? No Problem: Defending the Home Front in Ancient ... by nspattak on Friday June 10, 2022 @08:46AM (#31693309)
Elections are coming in Greece as well.

Politicians on either side of the aegean have failed their people misserably and are apparently turning to nationalism/hatred for political gain.

I wish this is understood by both countries (yet I do not expect it...)

Re:No Army? No Problem: Defending the Home Front in Ancient ... by planetis on Friday June 10, 2022 @09:16AM (#31693678)
> I wish this is understood by both countries (yet I do not expect it...)

In the Greek side there hasn't been a single populist "call to arms" by any political party. Greece is not the one that would start an incident, since it's against it's interests and it's advised to remain calm by the media. Recently the Greek PM responded to Erdogan's previous petty statements [1] with just "we are neighbours, we always need to talk, and we always want to keep channels of communication open". Overall their responses in the media are mild and far from nationalistic.

[1]: https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-erdogan-says-greek-pm-... [2]: https://www.amna.gr/en/article/649386/PM-Mitsotakis-If-Erdog...

Re:No Army? No Problem: Defending the Home Front in Ancient ... by planetis on Friday June 10, 2022 @09:20AM (#31693754)
The previous night's outrageous addressing to the Greek people from Erdogan in Greek, where he threatened for a disaster like the burning of Smyrna a century ago.

[1]: https://twitter.com/RTErdogan/status/1534954757713960962

Re:No Army? No Problem: Defending the Home Front in Ancient ... by watwut on Friday June 10, 2022 @10:09AM (#31694464)
It does not seem like symmetrical both sides situation to me to be honest.