Re:Internet Filtering in Canada: Rogers' NHL Blocking Order
by int_19h on Thursday June 09, 2022 @08:37PM
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It's never been achieved because it was never really tried. To reiterate, what USSR and China had was not communism even according to themselves - I'm not even talking about impartial outside observers here! - so, pray tell, how is it the "no true Scotsman" fallacy?
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Re:Internet Filtering in Canada: Rogers' NHL Blocking Order
by refurb on Friday June 10, 2022 @01:15AM
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Both China and the USSR conducted mass collectivation, land reform, commune models among other things to move away from capitalism to a communist model of public ownership. They even killed dissidents, violently oppressed public protests and starved their own people in the attempt.
And it was a massive failure.
It's a "no true Scotsman" fallacy because as long as attempts at moving to a communism model fail, supporters will just say "that wasn't true communism" ignoring the fact that if you can't actually create a functioning communist system that's indicative of failure of the model itself.
Re:Internet Filtering in Canada: Rogers' NHL Blocking Order
by int_19h on Friday June 10, 2022 @05:28PM
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Like I said, everything that you have describe was not communism - it was a particular recipe for supposedly building it. And yes, that recipe was a massive failure, and few people on the left believe that it could have ever been anything but.
But here we're talking about communism naturally arising out of technological post-scarcity. What does that have to do with Soviet model of "public" (actually, state) ownership, or killing dissidents, or violently oppressing anyone?