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Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by gouggoug on Thursday June 09, 2022 @04:06AM (#31678717)
A few comments mention how trivial this must have been to bypass; yes with today's internet, youtube videos, online tutorial, open-source hardware and the ubiquitousness of technology in general, of course this seems trivial.

However, in the context of the 80s, this was far from being trivial; there was no internet, no google. It probably didn't even occur to most people they could try to bypass this, and even if it did, who would they have asked?

Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by Thervicarl on Thursday June 09, 2022 @04:33AM (#31678888)
My high school had an electronics training course that was building decoders as a practical work.

It was good training for supply chain management and manufacturing. And they were selling them (illegally, obviously) and sharing the revenue between students and teachers.

Over the years and hundreds of decoders sold, they probably contributed to a significant loss of revenue for Canal+ in my hometown.

Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by nicolas314 on Thursday June 09, 2022 @06:29AM (#31679528)
At my electronics engineering school we had access to everything we needed to mass-produce those decoders and did so at a reasonable scale to pay for our studies. That was a lifeline. Knowledge of TV signals gave me my first job, during which I got to work with the guy who designed the scrambling system and had a chance to thank him in person. Small world.
Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by sofixa on Thursday June 09, 2022 @05:24AM (#31679203)
Minitel, an Internet precursor if you will, was launched in 1982, and in the 1990s there were 9 million of terminals at households. So there kind of was Internet, with message boards, chat, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel

Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by pvg on Thursday June 09, 2022 @04:15AM (#31678772)
Really makes you wonder how they built the internet without googling a tutorial. One possibility is that they just faked it.
Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by Banana699 on Thursday June 09, 2022 @09:48AM (#31681084)
What did the poor Stackoverflow devs do when they encountered an exception :( ?
Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by speedgoose on Thursday June 09, 2022 @07:06AM (#31679755)
It was well known that pirate decoders existed and were available on the black market. I was a child at the time and I knew that some classmates had such things at home.
Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by jaywalk on Thursday June 09, 2022 @10:44AM (#31681804)
Yep. For premium cable TV channels in the US, the decoders were known as "black boxes" (because they were, literally, black boxes) and everyone knew about them.
Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by rwmj on Thursday June 09, 2022 @04:55AM (#31679037)
Books! I had a side project that brute-force decoded VideoCrypt[1] in software back in the day, and I found out about how it worked from a book.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCrypt

Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by cm2187 on Thursday June 09, 2022 @05:09AM (#31679117)
Even in the 90s, having a video input port was quite rare. It was actually a big plus of the mac of the time, they came by default with a lot of ports that were optional and required addon cards on PC: 16bit audio jack, scsi, RCA ports, etc.

Ironic given that it is now the other way.

Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by sgerenser on Thursday June 09, 2022 @07:15AM (#31679800)
In the 90s only a very few “AV” model Macs had RCA input jacks (2 Quadra’s using 68040 CPUs and later a couple early PowerPC machines).
Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by stackbutterflow on Thursday June 09, 2022 @05:05AM (#31679094)
You knew a guy who knew a guy.
Re:Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020) by Kuinox on Thursday June 09, 2022 @09:12AM (#31680757)
They did bypass it. IT students built and sold unscrambler devices.