The voter ID laws make voter disenfranchisement easier and fraudulent voting harder, so they greatly increase the total number of incorrectly cast / denied ballots per election. Therefore, they do a small, bounded, amount of good, and a large, unbounded, amount of harm.

Banning mail in ballots doesn’t sound like much of a good policy.

BS.

> and won’t accept student IDs.

Nor should they.

> Banning mail in ballots doesn’t sound like much of a good policy.

Why? Do you disagree that fraud is easier with mail-in ballots?

In Pennsylvania, mail-in ballots don't even pass through the level of the bureaucracy that was bribed to compromise the in-person vote totals.

"Do mail-in ballots make fraud easier" is a multi-dimensional question. At some level of resolution, everything that makes exercising the right to vote easier makes fraud easier. US history is too rife with examples of attempts to deny the right to vote under surface-level-sound justifications to take any such question at face value.

No, you didn't. You have been had. HTH.

Nah, typical Texas behavior, along with overregulation of voter drives and arresting anyone who tries too hard to do it. To deny voter IDs you typically shut down DMVs in areas you don't want getting too many of them.

> Why? Do you disagree that fraud is easier with mail-in ballots?

It certainly enables some kinds of it (like forcing your family members to vote a certain way) but also makes some kinds harder (putting the voting site in someone's house and intimidating anyone who drives up). It's very popular in most places it's been tried, and probably a good tradeoff anywhere with rural populations.

You have little imagination. Just because someone claims some new law protects the integrity of the vote doesn't mean that is the actual intent. Frequently it is just a pretext for differentially shaving off a percent or two of the "wrong" types of voters.

For decades conservatives have been alleging widespread voter fraud by democrats. I can't count the number of times I've heard about dead people being on the voter rolls. Yes, when my dad died of stroke, getting his name removed from the voter registry was item #496 on my list of things to do.

After the 2016 election Trump alleged 3M+ illegal votes. He formed a committee to investigate it, headed by Kris Kobach, who has a history of making such claims despite not showing anything. Despite having the full power and resources of the federal government at his disposal, the committee turned up nothing.

Election fraud is a real concern, and none of the recent laws address that. Voter fraud is on the order of 1:100,000 to 1:1,000,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_impersonation_(United_St...

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/07/20/appeals-court-rules-...

EU countries are split on mail-in ballots. UK, Germany, Spain, Poland, Iceland, and Switzerland where ~90% vote by mail. It's not because of fraud concerns, it's because all EU countries have a national holiday or weekend day for elections. The U.S. does it on a Tuesday which acts as voter suppression. Colorado, similar to Switzerland, mails ballots to every registered voter, and reports very low concerns of election fraud and even lower cases of voter fraud.

It’s to make sure minorities that have historically been discriminated against with regards to voting actually get to vote, which is their right.

Assuming you’re giving your position in good faith, I’d really enjoy to hear some extrapolation on your side of thought.

Have you ever actually looked at the test they used to give black people to vote? It’s been a while since I’ve read much about the topic, but I think it was going on even into the 1950’s?

As the top of my class, the test was easy to me - but some very slight mindfuckery, as is the point. I guarantee you the lower 50% of my class would not have been able to pass it. & this is a 2010’s level of education against essentially uneducated blacks from close to a century ago.

If you think things like that are acceptable & okay. I cannot believe you & your ideologies would lead to a prosperous society capable of sustaining humanity & advancing technology.