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Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by usrn on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @12:40PM (#31669981)
Of course they are, Windows is unusable with them and that makes the user aware of all the insane stuff in the background saturating the IO bandwidth.
Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by Comevius on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @01:48PM (#31671289)
It's totally all the stuff Windows is doing in the background, on Linux with at least 16 GB RAM the difference between a HDD and SSD is less striking. Caching, the BFQ scheduler, and having a lean system goes far.
Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by tpmx on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @12:36PM (#31669909)
A 128 GB M.2 or SATA SSD is like $15-20 now. Kind of makes sense for new systems.
Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by lynguist on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @03:26PM (#31672712)
For the past fifteen years I found that a main drive of ca 300 GB is needed. 256 GB can cut it if you don’t have many larger files, but 128 GB doesn’t cut it.

I remember back in 2011 when SSDs started becoming popular people would cheap off and get 64 GB drives! And even recommended it for a well balanced system! It’s madness. I bought a 512 GB SSD in 2011 for my laptop, used a 256 GB SSD in a hand-me-down laptop, and 1TB in newer laptops from 2019-2020.

I also use ca 250 GB for rented cloud platforms.

You can’t recommend 128 GB.

Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by tpmx on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @04:51PM (#31673933)
These configs exist for a reason: The "developing world", "the on average poor countries", or whatever you might want to call them. This is the market that is currently getting the extreme low-end systems with the OS running on mechanical harddrives which of course is barely usable.

I think a 128 GB solid state drive for Windows and apps and a 1 TB mechanical HDD for media storage could be the basis for a really neat and cost effective little laptop. Just make sure the Downloads folder is mapped to the mechanical HDD by default...

Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by ephbit on Thursday June 09, 2022 @07:49AM (#31680020)
> ... and a 1 TB mechanical HDD for media storage ...

Agree. The problem - at least for laptops - appears to be that it's getting harder to find models that come with slots/interfaces for HDDs.

Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by Geonode on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @03:18PM (#31672591)
But then the default is managing a second hard drive for your files. I suspect many people don't know what a hard drive is.
Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by theandrewbailey on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @04:11PM (#31673315)
It's possible to move required Windows folders to a separate drive during installation. For the past 10 years, I've had my Users directory on a hard drive, leaving everything else on an SSD. As long as I don't install too many things on the SSD (like games), I've never had to worry about where everything is. Although there's warnings about 'this isn't supported', I haven't been burned.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1964-move-users-folder-l...

Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by paulkrush on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @12:37PM (#31669936)
A cheap 10 year old business computer with SSD can be a rocket compared to a new low end machine.
Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by pgen on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @12:51PM (#31670176)
One more reason to switch to Linux!
Re:Microsoft Trying to Kill HDD Boot Drives by 2023 by alar44 on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @02:54PM (#31672269)
Yeah! Go use Linux on your slow dinosaur drives! That'll show em!