Re:Embodiment is indispensable for AGI
by UmbertoNoEco on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @07:15PM
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It's trivial to give a regular CPU better sensing than you in dozens of variables (pressure, temperature, voltage, CO concentration, etc), so your point is rather weak.
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Re:Embodiment is indispensable for AGI
by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @07:37PM
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I absolutely agree. You can, and better than humans. Not only better for any one sense, but also more senses than humans have.
But that isn't what Isinlor was talking about. They said "moving electrons around" within the normal CPU circuitry as if that was the same as actuators controlling the external world. It's not.
Re:Embodiment is indispensable for AGI
by UmbertoNoEco on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @08:51PM
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Moving electrons in silicon circuits = Moving K+ and Na+ ions in cells. Same principle. There is nothing inherently special, sacred or non-physical about our circuits. They are very energy efficient (compared to current standards), highly parallel and it is a kluge hard to reverse-engineer but other than that they are sensors, processors and actuators. This blueprint is universal, trivially so.
As UmbertoNoEco says, CPUs absolutely are actuators controlling flow of electrons.
In fact a single transistor is both a sensor and actuator.
In fact you can use them to do things they were not designed to do like trough row hammer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Row_hammer
CPUs can also detect things like collisions with cosmic rays.
CPUs just can't produce macroscopic forces relevant on human scale.
Sensation isn't the issue here, perception is.
Re:Embodiment is indispensable for AGI
by UmbertoNoEco on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @02:16PM
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"Chemistry is not the issue, life is"