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Re:Photonic Chip Performs Image Recognition at the Speed of ... by nonrandomstring on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @11:00AM (#31655353)
Less than a single clock cycle (0.1 ns) of a fast conventional processor? This feels like the difference between electromechanical computing and transistors (skipping vacuum tubes entirely). These moments in life I hoped for as a kid, when you realise there's a step change between technologies you are familiar with and what's coming next are exhilarating and worrying. The downside is that everything we've created to this point, including all the bad applications, will be magnified by the same factor as the good things. Time to get our house in order.
Re:Photonic Chip Performs Image Recognition at the Speed of ... by travisathougies on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @01:29PM (#31657557)
There are several companies doing photonic computing (some with commercially available or soon-to-be-available chips). Unfortunately, it's currently all for naught, as existing available silicon hardware accelerators can currently do the computation faster than anyone can stream the data into the chip. The more interesting problem is data movement, as usual.
Re:Photonic Chip Performs Image Recognition at the Speed of ... by splittingTimes on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @05:12PM (#31660129)
I do not understand your remark.

> do the computation faster than anyone can stream the data into the chip. The more interesting problem is data movement, as usual.

Is that not the selling point of integrated photonic circuits? You got photonic chips/components that are connected by photonic waveguides. So essentially photons replace electrons for all intents and purposes and the data moves at close to the speed of light.

Re:Photonic Chip Performs Image Recognition at the Speed of ... by travisathougies on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @01:19PM (#31670717)
My point is the following:

1. Photonics is a new technology. It is more expensive than silicon 2. Silicon can do the compute as fast as photonics, and we understand silicon. Building a silicon chip is 'easy'. 3. The problem is data transport, which silicon cannot do fast enough. We can compute inferences faster than we can get the data

Photonic compute doesn't help with (3). Photonic data transport does, and there are several companies who have entered this market, including several who have already exited with large deals. However, photonic data transport can terminate at photonic compute or silicon compute, and silicon compute is fast enough and cheaper / better understood.

Re:Photonic Chip Performs Image Recognition at the Speed of ... by nonrandomstring on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @02:48PM (#31658533)
I guess this bodes the end of the copper PCB, except for power supplies.
Re:Photonic Chip Performs Image Recognition at the Speed of ... by travisathougies on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @04:55PM (#31659936)
I'm going to guess most electronics is not going to be super high-speed. Sort of like how fiber optic was once the realm of only large businesses, then small businesses, and now is commonly available at home (although nowhere near 100% adoption). I think the copper PCB will eventually go away, but not for many decades.
Re:Photonic Chip Performs Image Recognition at the Speed of ... by thisiscorrect on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @11:30AM (#31655811)
570 ps is 0.57 ns.
Re:Photonic Chip Performs Image Recognition at the Speed of ... by mcronce on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @11:32AM (#31655835)
Also, 0.1ns would be a single clock cycle at 10GHz