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Re:Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC – A Raspberry Pi 400 alternativ... by jancsika on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:03PM (#31649405)
Except that the video will freeze sporadically when she tries watching The Staircase on HBO Max.

After you go to the trouble of figuring which Chromium startup flags will get a minimally watchable streaming experience, she will then complain that the mouse is broken. When you ask her, "What do you mean the mouse is broken? I didn't touch the mouse," she replies, "I mean it doesn't move when I move it."

Then you'll notice that one of your Chromium flags has mysteriously caused sporadic jank for the mouse pointer. And you'll try to explain that it's not broken, there's just some kind of unpredictable latency in the pointer motion.

She'll then reply, "Right, it's broken."

And you'll stand there, defeated, staring into the frozen eyes of Colin Firth for five straight seconds as you finally begin to comprehend that "entry level desktop" doesn't mean what you thought it did.

Re:Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC – A Raspberry Pi 400 alternativ... by makeitdouble on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @01:05AM (#31650085)
Very well put.

I think it’s the simplicity of it that is deceptive; the RPi and other alternatives work great in experienced hands. In particular when the user can detect any early sign of an issue or is good enough to quickly diagnose what’s going wrong, fix it in 5 min and forget about it, it looks like a cute trivial little cheap machine that just works fine.

It takes looking at a kid or less experienced users working through a task for 5~10 mon to realize how much the hardware/software has to be flexible and permissive to make the user successful.

Re:Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC – A Raspberry Pi 400 alternativ... by jancsika on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @11:01AM (#31668342)
> the RPi and other alternatives work great in experienced hands.

I haven't seen a single piece of evidence that anyone can get Chromium to smoothly stream video under Raspian Bullseye (or any other distro for that matter).

Re:Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC – A Raspberry Pi 400 alternativ... by st34m on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:27PM (#31649544)
The Raspberry Pi OS is just not great. I worked with one lately through an education project and was disappointed by the DE and system defaults in a lot of cases.

It's definitely not representative of the best that Linux desktops have to offer now.