Cuba about to adopt the most progressive family law in the world

Re:Cuba about to adopt the most progressive family law in th... by notch656a on Monday June 06, 2022 @08:19PM (#31648306)

Earlier you praised democracy being the system by which the "population" decides "their own political matters." You go on to cite this democratic system where "46,000 neighborhood meetings" determine family law as being exemplary citizenship involvement and democratic process.

Then you take a viewpoint (legalize polymarous marriage, basically) that goes against the democratic majority in the US and Cuba. Wanting to force an anti-democratic solution while praising democracy as the solution is contradictory.

Do you want polyamorous marriage, or do you want democratic decision making on family law? Until the public opinion changes, you can only pick one.

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Re:Cuba about to adopt the most progressive family law in th... by trasz on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @03:33AM (#31650961)

Human rights aren’t something that should be voted on.

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Re:Cuba about to adopt the most progressive family law in th... by pastacacioepepe on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @02:27PM (#31658282)

We can't vote on human rights, we can't vote on economic policy, we can't vote on foreign policy, then what is left to vote? How can you call this democracy?

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Re:Cuba about to adopt the most progressive family law in th... by notch656a on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @11:59AM (#31656244)

I'd agree that your argument at least has merit, and I'd point out your argument is counter to 'pastacacioepepe' glorification of democracy as the tool for settling these rights.

Of course down in the weeds is 'what are human rights' which is often settled by democratic process. It turns out to be a nasty problem determining who decides what human rights really are.

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Re:Cuba about to adopt the most progressive family law in th... by pastacacioepepe on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @02:26PM (#31658260)

It might surprise you but I want both. I want civil rights and I want a strong and partecipated democratic process. The democratic process will always win tho. Any right that is "imposed" rather than conquered will not last.

> that goes against the democratic majority in the US and Cuba

Maybe in the progressive US, not in Cuba, where 54% of the voters are in support of the proposal. The contrarians are not the communist by the way, but the Cuban catholics.

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Re:Cuba about to adopt the most progressive family law in th... by notch656a on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @02:55PM (#31658612)

54% of Cuba is in support of polyamorous marriage? Citation please.

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Re:Cuba about to adopt the most progressive family law in th... by pastacacioepepe on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @05:10AM (#31664929)

Did you just spend lots of time debating me without even taking the 10 minutes necessary to read the article?

Wow. This tells a lot about the quality of this discussion.

Read the reuters article that was linked. It's all in there.

I'm done debating with you, this is just a waste of time.

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Re:Cuba about to adopt the most progressive family law in th... by notch656a on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @12:34PM (#31669887)

I read both articles but I went back to re-read them, as I'm willing to be proven wrong. Neither mention anything about polyamorous marriage, and definitely nothing about 54% support for it. They mention traditional (2-person) same-sex and cis marriages.

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