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Re:Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industri... by wing-_-nuts on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:28AM (#31640953)
The empire might be failing, but it is possible for the US to peacefully step back, like the UK did after WWII.

One thing I wonder is, who steps up? China, for sure, though it's grappling with population decline as an existential crisis. The EU? The EU has never 'stepped up' for anything. The US sat patiently by and tried to let Europe deal with Milosevich. That utterly failed. The EU was also almost ripped apart by the greek debt crisis, so it too is having real issues.

A post US hegimon world is going to be a very different world, and not necessarily a better one.

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Re:Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industri... by guerrilla on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:41AM (#31641105)
> The US sat patiently by and tried to let Europe deal with Milosevich

What do you mean? NATO bombed the shit out of what became Serbia, they withdrew from Kosovo and he was arrested two years later...

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Re:Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industri... by wing-_-nuts on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:51AM (#31641226)
NATO, lead by the US after we waited ages for the European community to sort things out. Europe really dropped the ball there, and proved themselves almost wholly incapable of dealing with an internal security problem.
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Re:Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industri... by guerrilla on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:53AM (#31641250)
Hmmm, I guess and maybe you remember better than I do but how is that not the same thing as NATO and the UN dropping the ball? Is it not the case that everyone waited a year to do anything?
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Re:Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industri... by wing-_-nuts on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:55AM (#31642095)
The UN will never solve anything because it requires unanimous support from russia and china on the security council. nato is a defensive alliance that only really comes into effect when a member is attacked. I'm not even sure what pretext allowed nato to get involved here, but Europe basically twiddled their thumbs while genocide happened on the european continent. This only really changed when the US got involved to keep things from spiraling out of control like 1914.
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