Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industrial levels

Re:Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industri... by prometheus76 on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:06AM (#31640670)

You just ignored all of the challenges to your current worldview. Cognitive dissonance is just as difficult for the people you are trying to convince as it appears to be for you.

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Re:Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industri... by suture on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:25AM (#31640921)

I did no such thing. Increasing carbon dioxide, keeping all else equal, traps more heat. This isn’t disputable. Hence my refusal to say otherwise can’t possibly be cognitive dissonance.

It might be a good thing to increase CO2. It might be bad. It might be the case that increasing carbon dioxide causes counter balancing effects and therefore increasing CO2 does not increase temperature (I remain skeptical of this but I’m not a climate scientist). But what is beyond dispute is that massively increasing CO2 will cause climatic disruptions while the weather system reaches a new equilibrium.

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Re:Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industri... by JumpCrisscross on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:53AM (#31641243)

> keeping all else equal

The reasonable pushback against this is per se isn't a realistic assumption in a system as dynamic as our biosphere.

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Re:Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industri... by suture on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:01AM (#31641370)

Oh definitely. But it seems to me that it is obvious that increases in CO2 on a massive, rapid scale will necessitate climatic changes (not necessarily bad) as the system finds a new equilibrium. This may in turn cause massive disruptions to human societies.

Note that there are many seemingly obvious things that are false so I could be wrong.

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Re:Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industri... by native_samples on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:32AM (#31641770)

"This may in turn cause massive disruptions to human societies."

The word "may" is doing a lot of work here. Lots of things may cause massive disruptions to human society. One thing we can say with certainty: the mitigation efforts being proposed to reduce CO2 levels will cause massive disruptions to human society.

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