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Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by matrix12 on Sunday June 05, 2022 @02:44PM (#31633719)
Their Amphoras gave away their origins long ago. The corruption of the name to "Palestine" does a disservice to the history.
Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by aerodog on Sunday June 05, 2022 @04:52PM (#31634728)
In the Muslim world, they are called "Philisteen" or the like. "Palestine" is an Anglification.
Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by encephalos on Sunday June 05, 2022 @08:05PM (#31636024)
I’ve read / heard various interpretations on the relationship/lack of of The Philistines and The Palestinians.

The main one being, that original Philistines are not modern-day Palestinians, yet the etymology of the name seems to have its roots.

The alternative etymology is that Palestinian literally translates to παλαιστής in Greek which means "fighter" and in Turkish (the π/μπ sound is written and pronounced as b, so Balestinian where a Balesti is also a fighter in Turkish).

I’ve also heard/read that The Philistines were individuals (possibly some type of proto-Greeks) that were essentially outcasted and banished from Crete and other Aegean States as they were problem individuals, à la Australia? So thieves, liars, shillers, connivers, etc. Which ultimately settled in modern-day Gaza/Israel.

Last year, there were new scrolls discovered that were dated as BC and contained the contents of some of the most important books in The Torah and written in Ancient Greek - where the Hebrew texts of these books were discovered much much later as in centuries later.

There’s also the mystery of that whole area where the scrolls were discovered that were for the last part of the century closed off from further archeological studies and excavation (orders from the State of Israel) which has always puzzled historians and archeologists. As if, to avoid rewriting any history as has been written or further disprove / prove any claims individuals have long argued for.

Now that the site is back to being open (I think) for such further explorations, maybe we’ll get more truths / alternative histories. I once heard from local Cretans that back in the post WWII era, there had been Israeli divers that found Hebraic potteries/treasures off the Cretan coast that had looked aged, but ultimately were found to have been planted and staged a few decades earlier.

Again, never confirmed any of this, so it’s all here-say, but there’s definitely some forces that are or have been trying to keep certain truths and facts well-hidden out there.

Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by zozbot234 on Monday June 06, 2022 @06:46AM (#31638886)
> There’s also the mystery of that whole area where the scrolls were discovered that were for the last part of the century closed off from further archeological studies and excavation

Why is that surprising? Given the topic, some enduring Philistinism is only to be expected.

Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by encephalos on Monday June 06, 2022 @05:47PM (#31646783)
Definitely not surprising, just an attempt at being PC.
Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by matrix12 on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:21PM (#31649153)
They brought pigs with them to eat. It pretty much rules out a lot of peoples of the Levant.
Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by slim on Sunday June 05, 2022 @02:54PM (#31633796)
Rome is guilty of that as well. When they invented latin, they transliterated greec lettet Phi to the letter P
Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by matrix12 on Sunday June 05, 2022 @02:56PM (#31633821)
And the Punic, Punicians who spoke a "Hebrew" when invading with Elephants.
Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by coliveira on Sunday June 05, 2022 @05:05PM (#31634855)
It's the other way around, hebrew is just a derivative of the language spoken by the Phoenicians, also closely related to the Aramaic that became the common language over that whole area. Hebrew was, for a long time, just a cerimonial language used by the jewish religion.
Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by kurupt213 on Sunday June 05, 2022 @03:53PM (#31634283)
Hebrew was just one of many Semitic languages.
Re:Ancient DNA may reveal origin of the Philistines by matrix12 on Sunday June 05, 2022 @07:53PM (#31635946)
Except they were essentially the same language, and an alphabet. Unlike say Eblaite.