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Re:Everywhere basic income has been tried, in one map by JoeAltmaier on Sunday June 05, 2022 @09:47AM (#31630959)
A lot of claims with nothing to back it up, there.

Folks have guaranteed incomes now. Lots of folk, lots of places. The world hasn't ended. Pensions, annuities, allowances, grants.

Of course it can work. 90% of everything is automated now. We don't need everybody to work for what we consume, and haven't for a couple decades now. If it weren't for a strong Protestant Work Ethic and make-work programs, we'd see far more people doing things other than slaving away at a job.

In future it'll only get more appealing, when nearly 100% of our needs are met by automation. Sure, build some pointless strawman about "What if nobody does anything?!!!" Not a problem, as long as folks who work earn more, then there will always be willing folks to do Engineering and whatnot.

Face it, it's only FUD and that troubling work ethic that get people so riled up. Not logic nor pragmatism.

Re:Everywhere basic income has been tried, in one map by easytiger on Sunday June 05, 2022 @05:14PM (#31634919)
> Folks have guaranteed incomes now. Lots of folk, lots of places. The world hasn't ended. Pensions, annuities, allowances, grants.

A pension or annuity paid for by your own effort is not even remotely related or comparable.

> Of course it can work. 90% of everything is automated now.

I'm not sure if it is funny or disturbing that you believe that. How sheltered, or privileged, must you be to believe it. The automation fantasy - I'll believe it when I see it.

So, in short, as per my post, your philosophy relies on an appeal to victimhood and a theoretician utopian advancement.

For something that's only Apparently 10% away it sure isn't manifesting in utopian robots everywhere

Re:Everywhere basic income has been tried, in one map by JoeAltmaier on Monday June 06, 2022 @12:33PM (#31642596)
Yeah you must not work in the business. Factories with workers are evaporating as fast as they can be obsoleted. It's been going on for 2 decades now.

The obstacle to UBI is not financial nor technological. It's social. Old entrenched views that haven't been revisited since childhood, and the folks holding those views making decisions.

I think a generation will have to grow old and die before UBI will be found acceptable.