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Re:How one guy ruined Hacktoberfest (2020) by mihaic on Sunday June 05, 2022 @08:34AM (#31630415)
Completely agree with you, although it's hard to explain why.

Teaching children specifics without fundamentals prepares them for the job market, not for life.

Re:How one guy ruined Hacktoberfest (2020) by tbrownaw on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:30AM (#31631301)
The job market is a somewhat important part of life. Even if you prefer to hate work and coworkers on principle, it still helps pay for other things.

Specifics are a useful starting point for getting to fundamentals; trying to learn abstracted stuff without having anything to tie it too tends to be a bit tricky. Even for adults, which is why "here's a novel to help illustrate what we mean by these things" is a thing (for example, The Phoenix Project). It's also why math tends to start with arithmetic and memorizing times tables, and only after that gets to more fundamental stuff like algebra and then calculus.

Re:How one guy ruined Hacktoberfest (2020) by ushakov on Sunday June 05, 2022 @09:08AM (#31630644)
thanks for the support!

sadly, some folks disagree

these skills have enabled them to live a great life and they want the same for their children

i certainly can understand that, but i disagree with the approach

Re:How one guy ruined Hacktoberfest (2020) by mihaic on Sunday June 05, 2022 @09:36AM (#31630866)
Yeah, the better I've become as a software developer, the more unnatural and almost dehumanizing do I realize the whole developer lifecycle is.
Re:How one guy ruined Hacktoberfest (2020) by robonerd on Sunday June 05, 2022 @02:13PM (#31633462)
It seems like premature vocational education. Vocational education is usually started as secondary or post-secondary education, not primary.

Starting vocational education so young feels like a slide back in time to the 19th century, except even then, apprenticeship usually began around 12-15 years old.