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Re:Solving the housing crisis requires fighting monopolies i... by lazide on Saturday June 04, 2022 @07:26PM (#31626192)
‘Demand’ includes availability of funds by potential buyers (and what they consider expensive) which is directly influenced by stock prices (which have seen major drops this year), and by interest rates.

The amount that can be loaned/supported by a given income, and hence a lot of underwriting standards, are based indirectly on the cost to service the loan relative to the income the person has.

The lower the interest rate; the bigger the loan someone can get if they shop around for the same income and assets.

This isn’t perfectly linear, as principal payments vs interest payments have different ratios based on interest rates, but it very much applies.

Re:Solving the housing crisis requires fighting monopolies i... by zamfi on Saturday June 04, 2022 @11:18PM (#31627688)
Yes of course demand is influenced by all these things. But it’s driven by people moving to a location and wanting to buy homes.

The market clearing price is also driven by these things.

But let’s be clear: the primary driver of sky-high prices in the Bay Area is (1) people moving here, getting well-paying tech jobs, and wanting to buy housing, and (2) not nearly enough new construction to meet that demand.

Re:Solving the housing crisis requires fighting monopolies i... by lazide on Sunday June 05, 2022 @12:27PM (#31632398)
If the fed continues on it’s current course, I guess we’ll find out over the next few years huh?
Re:Solving the housing crisis requires fighting monopolies i... by zamfi on Sunday June 05, 2022 @04:08PM (#31634404)
I wish -- but I suspect we won't, sadly, because many factors are at play, including the move to remote work for many, many tech companies. If we see both higher interest rates and dramatic drops in demand, then everyone will be able to spin their own story out of it.
Re:Solving the housing crisis requires fighting monopolies i... by lazide on Sunday June 05, 2022 @09:01PM (#31636365)
Eh, the demand shifted to more rural areas with the remote work shift, so nation wide the trend didn’t change much.

See the Case-Schiller index [https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CSUSHPINSA]

Changes in interest rates will be quite visible there, unless millions of people get ‘snapped’ and their houses remain intact anyway.

Re:Solving the housing crisis requires fighting monopolies i... by zamfi on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:00PM (#31636663)
That graph doesn’t really prove anything, though, because interest rates and housing prices are already correlated through economic growth: fed raises rates when economies are hot, and lowers them when they’re not. Also house prices go up when economies are hot, and don’t as much when they’re not.

The most recent lull in prices correlated with a lull in rates, which kind of goes against your overall point of higher rates pushing prices down because the cost of capital increases? But maybe I’m misunderstanding your point.

Re:Solving the housing crisis requires fighting monopolies i... by lazide on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:00PM (#31648568)
I addressed it in a parallel thread - there is lag and the overall markets are pretty illiquid in real estate which makes it worse.