How I would start my next startup in Germany without a GmbH (2020)

Re:How I would start my next startup in Germany without a Gm... by SkyAndSand on Saturday June 04, 2022 @10:43AM (#31620885)

While you can quickly set up the legal entity, getting a tax number can take months (https://www.selbststaendig.de/wissen/steuernummer-beantragen). The last time we set up a company in Germany it took more than 6 weeks to get a tax number.

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Re:How I would start my next startup in Germany without a Gm... by hef19898 on Saturday June 04, 2022 @10:45AM (#31620902)

Oh, forgot about that... VAT numbers as well. Go through a tax cobsutancy and it is faster, did that twice.

I see this as being seperate from incorporating so, as everyone is affected by slow tax authorities.

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Re:How I would start my next startup in Germany without a Gm... by SkyAndSand on Saturday June 04, 2022 @11:18AM (#31621318)

We did go through a tax consultancy. Still took that long. While you may be technically right in that it is separate from incorporating, it still plays into how quickly a company actually becomes usable.

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Re:How I would start my next startup in Germany without a Gm... by andi999 on Saturday June 04, 2022 @11:13AM (#31621242)

But can you do business without the vat number?

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Re:How I would start my next startup in Germany without a Gm... by hef19898 on Saturday June 04, 2022 @11:18AM (#31621312)

Wothout VAT number? Sure, if you stay domestic. It should also work internationally, but my two companies had VAT numbers to make things easier. Those are, I think, basically free. The time to get one varies depending on your local tax office. Some are faster than others.

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