Re:40k coin tosses yield ambiguous evidence for dynamical bias
by paxys on Friday June 03, 2022 @12:41PM
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People can definitely get "good" at coin tossing. It isn't even too difficult a trick to master. It's not really possible to use it in any kind of grift scenario though, because there aren't any real world cases where you can win money (or gain any advantage) just by tossing a coin a certain way. Rolling dice has a lot more potential, but those are in turn heavily monitored, e.g. in casino settings.
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Re:40k coin tosses yield ambiguous evidence for dynamical bias
by JulianWasTaken on Friday June 03, 2022 @12:47PM
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> there aren't any real world cases where you can win money (or gain any advantage) just by tossing a coin a certain way.
Paying off a referee to have the coin turn up heads in overtime in a football game seems like it may net you some profit.
Re:40k coin tosses yield ambiguous evidence for dynamical bias
by aidenn0 on Friday June 03, 2022 @04:46PM
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I believe NFL coin tosses let the coin hit the ground. All methods I know of biasing a coin toss involve catching the coin. As long as the coin hits the ground and bounces at least once, a lot of randomness is re-introduced.
Re:40k coin tosses yield ambiguous evidence for dynamical bias
by paxys on Friday June 03, 2022 @01:08PM
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If you can pay off a referee then the coin toss would be the least effective way to do it. A single bad call would gain you a much bigger advantage.
Re:40k coin tosses yield ambiguous evidence for dynamical bias
by dTal on Friday June 03, 2022 @01:33PM
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It has far more plausible deniability, however.
Re:40k coin tosses yield ambiguous evidence for dynamical bias
by bluGill on Friday June 03, 2022 @04:17PM
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Maybe. It only takes one bad call at the right time to throw a game. If the ref is consistently bad and missing call for both sides what is one more bad call?
I don't care much about bad refs so long as they are consistently bad. However a perfect ref who missing one critical call is a lot more suspicious. Of course I prefer a great ref, but I can work with a fairly bad ref.