Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work
by afroisalreadyin on Friday June 03, 2022 @03:31AM
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There is a very mid-20th-century idea that work, as in going to a certain place, doing something mildly productive for 8 hours, and getting money at the end of the month, is a good thing, and although this is practically dead, the idea is still alive in many people's heads. I took a leave for three months last summer, to wind down after the stress of the pandemic, and friends and family were part surprised, part frightened ("Doesn't he want to work anymore?") and part anxious that I wouldn't find a new job. Working regularly again since a couple of months, and I'm looking forward to saving enough money to have another long holiday.
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Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work
by the_only_law on Friday June 03, 2022 @03:36AM
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> doing something mildly productive for 8 hours
Oh man Iād love to spend my days productively, unfortunately I have to work.
Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work
by konart on Friday June 03, 2022 @03:50AM
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>Working regularly again since a couple of months, and I'm looking forward to saving enough money to have another long holiday.
Unfortunately in many places on earth you will have real problem continuing after such a holiday. Not from the same position you were in for sure.
Not to mention things change when you have a family of your own, old parents etc.
Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work
by afroisalreadyin on Friday June 03, 2022 @03:53AM
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Definitely, this is a luxury the tech space provides at this point in time. No idea how long it will stay this way.
Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work
by synergyS on Friday June 03, 2022 @03:45AM
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We should normalize such pauses lasting several months
Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work
by taylodl on Friday June 03, 2022 @11:11AM
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It used to be normalized. It was called a sabbatical. The first company I ever worked for had mandated sabbaticals every 5 years. It was six weeks and you couldn't just add it to your vacation days, you had to take the six weeks all at once. Everybody felt fully refreshed after taking the six weeks off. Plus, their standard work week was 35 hours per week, 7 hours per day. Being a start up we did have periods during the year where we worked considerably longer, but those would be for 2-3 week periods a couple of times per year. This was back in the 1980's. Like I said, this definitely used to be part of our work culture.
Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work
by afroisalreadyin on Friday June 03, 2022 @03:48AM
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Absolutely, the best thing I ever did. In Germany, the social democrats had a plan to pay people a large chunk of their salary for a year so that they can take a sabbatical after working a number of years (8 or 10, I'm not sure). Of course it was shelved quickly after they got elected and things went south with the Ukraine invasion and the economic downturn.
Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work
by Seriomino on Friday June 03, 2022 @03:56AM
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My company allows you to save your working hours and spend them in your sabbatical.
It's primarily a good thing in regards of taxes as you pay less in that time.
Do you mean something different? Haven't heard a free sabbatical from spd
Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work
by afroisalreadyin on Friday June 03, 2022 @04:07AM
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Had to google it again myself, they called it Grundeinkommensjahr (https://www.deutschlandfunknova.de/beitrag/lars-klingbeil-gr...) and the pay was much less than I remembered; it's 1000 bucks per month plus social security. You get one month per year of work.