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Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by bombcar on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:23PM (#31603064)
Every dealership I’ve ever been to has been like that.

Sometimes they’re even worth using for “normal” repairs because they will sometimes bill by the book even if the actual labor time is higher.

Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by sammalloy on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:46PM (#31603235)
> Sometimes they’re even worth using for “normal” repairs because they will sometimes bill by the book even if the actual labor time is higher.

This is exactly correct. Which is why if you aren’t sure, compare prices with your preferred mechanic first. Where I am, the best independent mechanics and shops charge more than the dealer, for various reasons.

Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by sokoloff on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:55PM (#31603304)
Every shop I’ve seen uses the book times for any standard job.

My experience is that independents are significantly cheaper on a like-for-like basis, are also more willing to do a workable partial or alternate repair, but have worse lounges and often no courtesy car. (So you’re getting something for the extra cost.)

Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by bombcar on Thursday June 02, 2022 @10:24PM (#31603509)
Yeah, it’s worth knowing the details - some shops will charge book time if it’s in their favor but charge clock time if the repair is a pain - and with older cars that have dents and rust and such it can often be a pain.

The closer the person who does the work is to being the person who writes the bill the closer you get to clock time in my experience.

Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by jdironman on Thursday June 02, 2022 @10:36PM (#31603578)
I am lost, what is 'book times'?
Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by bombcar on Thursday June 02, 2022 @10:53PM (#31603708)
The auto manufacturers put out repair guides that list how many hours of a mechanics time a repair should take.

https://www.liveabout.com/the-truth-about-flat-rate-car-repa...

Many mechanics aren’t really directly employees of the shop, and often get paid based on work they get (some even have to “rent” the stall). It can be an interesting industry.