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Re:What has changed with video games over the last 25 years,... by sylens on Thursday June 02, 2022 @08:34AM (#31594002)
The biggest change from me is the shift away from dedicated, organic game communities to ones that are cultivated by "community managers" and fed a drip feed of live service seasons and battle passes.

Counter-Strike and Battlefield 1942 are two examples I'll call back to as they were two important games of my youth. At the time, most servers for these games were hosted and/or run by people that weren't affiliated with the developers or publishers of those games; it was just something you did so that your local group of friends or community could have a virtual home to get together and play.

My friends and I would have maybe a dozen servers we would keep favorited and a handful that we played on heavily. Over time, you got to know the other people on the server just by playing against them consistently; for example, when BigCheeseburger logged on and was on the opposing team in CS, you knew you had your work cut out for you. There were rivalries and camaraderies that just formed naturally as a result of this. Some of these servers also had web presences with a site that had their roster, dates and times for regular game nights, etc.

Games would also get occasional patches (patching before Steam is something I don't think was better back then) that would bring a new map or two, but that was generally it until a big expansion dropped, like Battlefield's Secret Weapons of WWII pack. If people wanted new content, they made it themselves - I spent so many hours on custom CS maps like Iceworld or even ones that shoehorned in Half Life's terrible vehicle controls to make facsimiles of Tatooine with landspeeders.

In most multiplayer games nowadays, the developer has one or more employees assigned to "manage" the subreddit or Discord for their game. Custom servers are often not even supported anymore, as matchmaking is used to funnel players into full games and keep them playing even if their friends log off for the night. You can forget about creating your own maps unless it's a special case like Halo's Forge mode; the developer/publisher has a great seasonal rollout plan that might never get realized if enough people don't keep playing the game (Say hi to Battlefield 2042!). Players need to see numbers go up so every game has an experience and leveling system first seen in Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare so that people don't realize how banal and limited the available content is. Cosmetics and boosts sprinkled over a battle pass system layer on top of this as another form of retention.

What has changed in the last 25 years? Games, like everything else, became extremely monetized at all levels, and in the process, conditioned a lot of players to feel that they NEED that monetization or else it's "boring". Look at the reaction to Halo Infinite, a game that plays fantastic but has had limited map/content drops since last fall. Instead of praising the fact that you can ignore its battle pass entirely and just have fun playing a few games with friends every few nights, people are demanding to see their game time rewarded with more progression, more unlocks, etc.

Re:What has changed with video games over the last 25 years,... by TheFreim on Thursday June 02, 2022 @08:59AM (#31594274)
> Custom servers are often not even supported anymore, as matchmaking is used to funnel players into full games and keep them playing even if their friends log off for the night.

This is one of the primary reasons I still mainly play older games. I like being able to host servers with exactly the modes I like, or find servers that have them. Some of the best experiences I've had in online games has been on servers I've hosted for Halo (Trail AND Custom Edition). Nothing matches the feeling of logging on to your own or favorite server and playing with a mix of regulars and randoms, without servers it's impossible to build communities in the same way.

Re:What has changed with video games over the last 25 years,... by sylens on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:13AM (#31594424)
Is there a list of modern games that still support this?
Re:What has changed with video games over the last 25 years,... by bombcar on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:40AM (#31594735)
Factorio and Minecraft are two big ones I know of.
Re:What has changed with video games over the last 25 years,... by wilsonnb3 on Thursday June 02, 2022 @05:54PM (#31600997)
Re:What has changed with video games over the last 25 years,... by imaginaryNumb3r on Thursday June 02, 2022 @10:20AM (#31595243)
The problem is that content-creation has become prohibitively laborious and expensive. Don't even think about creating a Battlefield level (or similar levels) without having a team of people working on it.

3D models aren't much better. You can easily re-texturing and create new content this way, but adding new models, animations and AI requires huge amount of polish to be somewhere near AAA quality.

Of course I completely agree on the community aspect. Forums have been dying for a long time and left a vast graveyard of former communities. But this is mostly due to social media and how newer generations are using the internet. We have a continuing trend of centralization which has affected the gaming sector big time.

Re:What has changed with video games over the last 25 years,... by the_only_law on Thursday June 02, 2022 @11:40AM (#31596236)
> but adding new models, animations and AI requires huge amount of polish to be somewhere near AAA qualities

On too, I remember wanting to get into the modding scene for an game I loved to play.

I did some research on the format used for 3D models and at the time the format was completely proprietary and supported only by software that costs tens of thousands of dollars most kidders probably don’t have sitting around.

The situation may be better nowadays, as I faintly recall the format being reverse engineered and supported on blender through plugins, but I may be created a hopeful fantasy.

Re:What has changed with video games over the last 25 years,... by Arrath on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:58PM (#31599795)
Half-Life 1/Goldsrc was the golden age of modding, and I miss it dearly.

Don't get me wrong, plenty of modern games have vibrant modding scenes (Minecraft, Starsector, Rimworld, Elder Scrolls, Fallout) but we don't see massive total conversions like we used to.

Re:What has changed with video games over the last 25 years,... by vlan0 on Thursday June 02, 2022 @11:36AM (#31596168)
Lack of player generated content also killed it for me. My friends and I spent 1000s of hours playing custom CS and Warcraft III maps. And then 100s of hours playing custom Portal maps. Feels like there is nothing comparable to this today.

Feels bad.

Re:What has changed with video games over the last 25 years,... by the_only_law on Thursday June 02, 2022 @11:38AM (#31596199)
The one thing I was disappointed in with the AoE3 remaster was the old multiplayer, player created scenarios were not compatible and frankly you just don’t see many custom scenario games anymore. Some were quite fun.