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Re:Elon Musk on Remote Work by ericmay on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @10:46AM (#31582531)
The same culture that embraces this is the same culture that will take risks to start a new electric automobile company. It's give and take. If the workers at the factory are hourly they're also being paid overtime to do this work. My parents worked at Honda in Ohio and often worked more than 40 hours/week because they would get paid overtime. Safety incidents happen because that's just life, but most issues are attributable to drugs/alcohol, and people being scumbags.

Instead of banning something, I think we need to make sure we're allowing people to seek employment options that work best for them with sensible safety practices of course. Being able to work overtime, for example, afforded my parents a great life and a reasonable "retirement" age. You might say, well they could get paid more and join a union, etc. and while I don't care too much about unions one way or another, Honda employees routinely reject unionization because they're really happy with their employment arrangement. I bet Tesla is similar.

Speaking for Honda, many people go straight from high school to work on the factory floor. They work overtime, and they have to do a good job, but if you go and ask the employees or the town of Marysville everyone is pretty happy with the arrangement. Again, I'm not sure why Tesla would be dissimilar except that it's popular so it makes the headlines.

In the case of office workers, software engineers, or others who are salaried, well they're professionals and they're paid a lot of money.

The first reaction to seeing something like "xyz is happening at Tesla" shouldn't be to ban something that you don't understand.

Re:Elon Musk on Remote Work by nix23 on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @10:51AM (#31582626)
I was not talking about tesla, i was talking about working 60 hours in a risky environment, but hey why not work 120? Or better, sleep in the factory eat there and pay for it?

>My parents worked at Honda in Ohio and often worked more than 40 hours/week because they would get paid overtime.

Yes that's normal, sometimes you have to do overtime, but 60 hours at a regular basis is something else.

Re:Elon Musk on Remote Work by camjohnson26 on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @01:18PM (#31585035)
You’re now accidentally describing the Shanghai factory
Re:Elon Musk on Remote Work by nix23 on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @01:38PM (#31585316)
"accidentally" ;)