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Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by naet on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @11:52AM (#31571009)
Checking your actual landing page ( https://propertywebbuilder.com ) and my opinion is... that it isn't a very good landing page. The sizing and spacing are awkward and blocky, your color scheme clashes with your images, the images are generic and tacky, everything is too big and wide, etc. Maybe because you worked on it you feel that it is a great modern style landing page, but that isn't how it reads to me (and seemingly to other people as well).

Maybe you look at a SIMPLER site like https://tom.preston-werner.com/ and mistakenly equate that with a "worse" landing page. Actually though this simple page has bullet proof styling, and slapping some stock images on it like you did on your page wouldn't make it better, it would make it way worse.

Rather than looking for an external factor like a "mythical uncanny valley" to explain your landing page's poor performance, look inwards at your individual styling and what could be improved.

Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by pantulis on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @02:08PM (#31572804)
To be fair with OP, comparing Preston-Werner's blog to a landing page is not really an apples to apples comparison, imho, as the purpose is totally different.

Still, OP has lots of work to do on that landing page, but not only on the design (there are a gazillion templates for that) but on how does it convey the value of the service it's offering. Also almost all clicks take inmediately to a login page without much explanation.

Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by wbsss4412 on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @01:31PM (#31572334)
I think their uncanny valley metaphor is still apt in this situation though.

They’re trying to take design principles that are common among professionally designed webpages and apply them. They are, unfortunately, doing so quite poorly, and it is leading to a worse result.

Edit: typo

Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by 8ytecoder on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @02:00PM (#31572712)
Is it though? I’m not even a designer but I can see the color coordination isn’t ideal and a bit harsh. Sections are not delineated clearly. There’s isn’t a clear separation between heading and body in styling. These things are designer 101.
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by wbsss4412 on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @02:13PM (#31572876)
As I said, they are attempting to copy things that are common all over the internet, but doing so poorly.

Do you not see how their current page takes design cues from professional pages?

Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by setr on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @07:29PM (#31576189)
That's not really uncanny valley... so much as plainly amateur work.

I think its much more likely the greater volume of criticism is due to the fact that as OP gets closer to a known aesthetic, the precision of the criticisms can grow because it becomes more obvious what the goal is, and how its been missed.

Whereas a totally unstyled HTML page can't really be criticized usefully, because there is no real goal presented, and so nothing to really contrast against. At best you can say "fix everything".

Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by marcosdumay on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @03:08PM (#31573547)
> color coordination

> Sections are not delineated clearly

> separation between heading and body

Personally, when I open that site, I have no idea what it's about at all (yeah, it's something related to house-hunting). Only when I scroll down an entire screen-height, I get some high level explanation.

All the things you noted are there, but I don't think fixing them would solve anything.

Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by yupper32 on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @01:04PM (#31571979)
Oh jeez, yeah that first site looks like an auto-generated scam/spam website. I'd never enter anything into that website.
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by jen20 on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @07:49PM (#31576325)
There’s something about the font stack that is seriously ugly on iOS.
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by kristjansson on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @03:49PM (#31574052)
W.. Why does a landing page have a loading bar?
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by sertorius on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @01:32PM (#31572344)
Not to pile on, but there's also a typo right on the first screen: "Lisitings". Also, inconsistent use of periods on bullet points.
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by sefrost on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @01:22PM (#31572203)
When I click the "start house hunting now" button it directs me straight to a login page, with an error message. Which is annoying because I just wanted to see what the site actually does.
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by evandale on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @03:08PM (#31573544)
This is what stopped me from using the site. I went through the work to find a url for a house, pasted it into the box that claims "Get started by entering the url for a property you are interested in" and get a login screen. That's not quite what getting started means to me.
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by sigg3 on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @03:49PM (#31574050)
Get stopped.
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by marcosdumay on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @03:10PM (#31573574)
Oh, yeah. Your site not working at all is a known cause of low conversion rates.
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by dailybagel on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @02:10PM (#31572821)
Clicking "Start house hunting now" does all that, _and_ breaks the back button functionality on Safari.
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by the__alchemist on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @01:22AM (#31578419)
Breaks back btn on Firefox too.
Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by arduinomancer on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @06:37PM (#31575771)
Yeah that page needs a smaller maximum width and less whitespace

It looks way too wide and spaced out on a regular desktop monitor

Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by bartread on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @04:40PM (#31574677)
The worst part is that after you've added a property and clicked the big button you're forced to sign up or sign in. I can't even see whether or not the service is useful without creating an account and, with it, yet another vector for unsolicited communication (GDPR be damned, etc., and yes I have trust issues here).

Maybe at least give me a taste of something useful before I have to sign up?

I was much less bothered by the layout and colours.

Re:Ask HN: Is there an “uncanny valley” effect with startup ... by duped on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @05:37PM (#31575267)
That's actually a feature and not a bug, a little activation energy is a great way to filter out people you probably can't convert to signups.

But you still need a demo video at the very least