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Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by iancmceachern on Monday May 30, 2022 @02:39PM (#31562140)
From my understanding the chemicals haven't changed, and can't really be changed. As far as i understand we will always need these crazy bad chemicals to make chips.

What has, hopefully, changed is we aren't allowing companies to store it in leaking underground tanks, etc. All these superfund sites aren't a result if business as usual, in each case there is some major, systemic, intentional oversight and frankly corruption.

Source - I've worked some in that industry designing automation for asml, applied, etc.

Not in the semiconductor industry but a good example of the kind of thing that results in a super fund site is Rocky Flats in Colorado. There is a now famous news broadcast where the representative from the department of energy is saying "there is no fire" and a big fire can be clearly seen behind them.

They were machining plutonium and uranium nuclear bomb triggers on lathes in special glove boxes with particle capture and ventilation systems that were supposed to scrub the air before venting it to atmosphere. These systems weren't properly maintained and they got clogged up with radioactive dust and caught fire. It was later found that they were dumping radioactive dust into the air, and had hundreds of barrels of radioactive waste in steel barrels that were rusted through leaking into the ground for decades. It's the only time one federal agency (the FBI) raided a facility of another federal agency (DOE).

Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by ChrisMarshallNY on Monday May 30, 2022 @04:50PM (#31563497)
Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by nickff on Monday May 30, 2022 @04:07PM (#31563148)
There have been a huge number of changes to the chemicals used in photolithography over time, specifically the photoresists.
Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by iancmceachern on Monday May 30, 2022 @05:35PM (#31563875)
Yeah but lots of the super terrible stuff is in the surface prep and etching chemicals. All those crazy acids and bases that eat through everything, are highly toxic, and deadly in tiny quantities.

https://www.prevor.com/en/chemical-risks-in-semiconductors-i...

Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by nickff on Monday May 30, 2022 @06:18PM (#31564232)
My understanding is that photoresists are actually some of the most toxic chemicals in the process, and their heating/irradiation makes them especially dangerous.

https://en.hesperian.org/hhg/Workers%27_Guide_to_Health_and_...

Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by iancmceachern on Monday May 30, 2022 @06:52PM (#31564480)
The context of my comment was in response to the parent saying they've phased out/changed many of the worst stuff in the photo resist side and so I said there is still pretty bad stuff on the etch side and then you commented that there are worse chemicals on the photo resist side. We're in a weird circular argument.

Point is - there are lots of bad chemicals used in semiconductor manufacturing, even today.

Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by MichaelZuo on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @12:00AM (#31577912)
This is exactly why the cost basis for fabs in the US got less and less competitive over time compared to countries with laxer regulation.
Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by iancmceachern on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @12:49AM (#31578211)
Same thing for mining