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Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by sremani on Monday May 30, 2022 @01:56PM (#31561679)
>> green tech has come a long way in identifying effective alternatives to toxic chemicals

Enlighten us, how manufacturing 'silicone' has become less chemical intensive.

Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by karmicthreat on Monday May 30, 2022 @02:41PM (#31562166)
It's not less chemical intensive at all. Some aqueous processes have replaced more toxic ones. But dissolved copper and solvent waste makes up the majority of ever fabs waste stream. TSMC/Intel etc have made pretty big strides in zero landfill hazardous waste. It just gets recycled and used in other processes internally or by other companies.

I don't know what the Chinese fabs do, so I have no idea if pump their waste out into the environment.

Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by Kadin on Monday May 30, 2022 @04:16PM (#31563219)
> dissolved copper

You would think that dissolved copper would have some recovery value, given the price of copper.

I am reminded of the waste from silver halide photographic processing, which at one point was just dumped into rivers (an unfortunate amount went into the Great Lakes); when the price of silver increased, suddenly it became worthwhile to recover the silver rather than let it go down the literal drain.

Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by throwaway743 on Monday May 30, 2022 @02:16PM (#31561890)
FTFY: Silicon
Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by sremani on Monday May 30, 2022 @02:30PM (#31562031)
between spelling nazis and reflexive downvoters .. who are entitled their respective actions.. what I am looking for is, how is the whole Quartz to Wafers process has become green and what kind of reduction and/or elimination of toxic materials has been achieved.

A good proper justification of the claim from the claimant or supporters of that argument is useful.

Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by adrian_b on Monday May 30, 2022 @04:31PM (#31563338)
In this case the spelling nazis had rightfully pointed to the correct spelling, because the wrong spelling is not a problem of style or preferences, but it causes a confusion between two different chemical substances, with very different properties and applications.

"silicon" is the chemical element number 14, and this name, which is used in the English-speaking countries, was coined by someone who believed that it is a good idea for it to rhyme with "carbon" (actually a bad idea in my opinion)

"silicone" is the generic name for a class of plastics, i.e. the polymers with a poly-siloxane structure. This name was coined by someone who believed that it is a good idea for it to rhyme with "acetone", because he erroneously believed that these polymers have a structure similar to ketones.

Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by throwaway743 on Friday June 03, 2022 @10:43PM (#31616451)
Thank you. Not trying to be a spelling nazi, just that those two tend to get mixed up quite a bit and can cause people confusion.
Re:House Bill Funds CHIPS Act, Stresses R&D by acomjean on Monday May 30, 2022 @02:49PM (#31562274)
I don’t have exact details but I did work in an civil/environment consulting companies (we worked remediating the GE silicone waste site in Upstate NY .. ) which might be why people are senesitive to the spelling.[1]

But generally those chemical engineers are pretty good at cleaning up the processes (it cheaper, also cheaper to ship manufacturing overseas…)

The Resource Conservation and Recovery act https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_Conservation_and_Re...

And toxic substance control acts seemed to rules of note.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_Substances_Control_Act...

GE silicones [1]https://www.epa.gov/hwcorrectiveactionsites/hazardous-waste-...