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Re:My students cheated... a lot by threatofrain on Sunday May 29, 2022 @12:16AM (#31546329)
Stopped giving <a shit> about undergrad degrees? No signal to be had?! Somehow I'm not getting that read from the tech industry... what I am getting is a willingness to hire non-traditional candidates. That does not translate to not giving a shit.

If you have more information on the source of your confidence, please do share.

Re:My students cheated... a lot by User23 on Sunday May 29, 2022 @12:28AM (#31546388)
Happy to. I’ve done well into the hundreds of interviews at FAANG or whatever the acronym du jour is. We didn’t even look at resumes except to see if they were obviously self-disqualifying. Google SteveY’s rants on the subject if you want more corroboration. Also it’s obvious to anyone that isn’t stupid that “daddy bought me into Stanford” doesn’t indicate an ability to do top tier engineering work.
Re:My students cheated... a lot by threatofrain on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @01:40PM (#31585350)
The Steve Yegge rants were well known... over a decade ago. Does he continue to speak for Google management perspectives today?
Re:My students cheated... a lot by alexb_ on Sunday May 29, 2022 @12:39AM (#31546447)
Google isn't turning up anything - mind linking SteveY?
Re:My students cheated... a lot by omoikane on Sunday May 29, 2022 @01:55AM (#31546785)
Re:My students cheated... a lot by User23 on Sunday May 29, 2022 @01:00AM (#31546528)
Stevey is his handle. He’s notable enough to have a Wikipedia page[1]. I don’t know if that page will directly get you to his posts on interviewing, but with some cleverness that should be enough to go on.

[1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Yegge

Re:My students cheated... a lot by ThrowawayR2 on Sunday May 29, 2022 @01:03AM (#31546553)
Probably Steve Yegge?
Re:My students cheated... a lot by hhmc on Sunday May 29, 2022 @05:24AM (#31547749)
Is it possible there was a resume filtering stage before you saw them?
Re:My students cheated... a lot by native_samples on Sunday May 29, 2022 @06:03AM (#31547921)
When I was interviewing at Google virtually all the candidates were sourced or referrals, not selected from submitted CVs. I never even looked at the education section. There are was too many universities or there to know if they're meant to be good or bad and education never told you anything useful anyway.
Re:My students cheated... a lot by User23 on Sunday May 29, 2022 @10:27AM (#31549388)
Back then recruiting did a very basic resume screen and then they’d go to an SDE or SDM’s inbox for final screening. I imagine that’s no longer the case.
Re:My students cheated... a lot by mattcwilson on Sunday May 29, 2022 @12:23AM (#31546357)
I dunno about the 90s, but it definitely feels to me like the industry largely stopped giving a shit about undergrad degrees at some point
Re:My students cheated... a lot by pkdpic on Sunday May 29, 2022 @12:27AM (#31546384)
Yeah, some bootcamps will hesitate to even admit you without a college degree. And I got offered to skip a technical interview just because I had a fancy degree on my resume that has nothing to do with cs.

Also when I was teaching pre-covid I always assumed my undergraduates would cheat if I gave them anything cheatable. Even if they're cheating though some small percentage gets through and sticks with some small percentage of students.

My mentors always said thats who you should teach to, and to assume good intentions with the rest. It takes a long time to settle into an adult brain.