Similar to Haskell. While with Rust it can be justified by its novelty and status as a meme, Haskell has been here since 1990.

Maybe it's because it's hard to attract talent in that space without offering niche, cool tools that are hard to find elsewhere?

Or is it a hack if you didn't understand the scope of your contract as you wrote it, and are now upset someone executed on it in a way you didn't expect?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4077970/can-haskell-func...

AIUI, similar work is being made to Rust to make it have similar provable properties.

Where I work we started a fairly big Rust project a couple of years ago and only recently put "Rust" on a job advert.

# job advertisements for 'rust' in the title != Company's searching for Rust Developers

# job advertisements for rust != # of developers using rust for non crypto shit.

I'd just like to point out those facts for people devolving the conversation in to all crypto is rust and rust is crypto and they will burn together.

Also, how about the fact that fast, concurrent and safe is exactly what the blockchain needs? Everyone who's coded in solidity (Javascript) or vyper (Python) for the ETH ecosystem knows that the constraints of the blockchain show those languages flaws(Difference?).

I think 'bullshit' is a little of an overstatement. I agree it's not a definite answer at all but I think it's quite an approximation of how the job market in Rust looks like.

Moreover, it's not a rant against it, we addressed a common belief within the Rust community without stating a judgement whether it's good or bad thing.

Well researched and great job lol.

I guess i was railing against the hate on rust in the comments section, which in actuality had nothing to do with your analysis.

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/search?base_query=rust&loc_query=

The use of Rust in crypto is a direct attack on the tribe of C/C++.

Lots of crypto people are loudly saying "C/C++ is inferior to Rust" and putting real money down on that position.

> real money

Not sure if sarcasm or...

However, the crypto people genuinely believe that they have something worth stealing and that Rust helps keep what they have from getting stolen. That is a direct downvote by highly motivated and self-interested actors against C/C++.

I know Cloudflare is depending heavily on Rust in its services. AWS is invested too. It's used at Dropbox, ByteDance, Canonical. It has already made its way into being part of infrastructure in many companies, and there aren't many alternatives for it, so there's momentum to keep it going.

Even in this sample of explicitly Rust-specific jobs that "most" is already close to a half, and the sample isn't including jobs that use Rust alongside other languages (which in my experience is common, since Rust is good for libraries/plug-ins/components/low-level utilities).

It's probably not likely at all. While Rust's correctness guarantees through ownership checking can be approximated by other programming languages through garbage collectors, it is not a widely understood fact that Rust mutability checking is also a great tool for multi-threaded programming, very challenging to get right even by veteran programmers. On top of that, Rust not only features syntax that's quite modern and ergonomic (analogous to Swift) with elements of functional programming, but Rust also offers modern abstraction-based programming constructs through traits (analogous to Swift Protocol-Oriented Programming). Even the ever C-advocating Linus Torvalds has already agreed to allow Rust as a second language within the Linux kernel. IMHO, Rust is not just a bubble - it will probably only keep growing in popularity.

After it all crashes, hopefully these rust coders will find their way into traditional finance and tech and displace C++.

The hyper-competitive and trustless nature of crypto rewards the most elite projects staffed by +4 SD minds. It’s like how Quant funds are a darwinian bloodbath.

The only way crypto is going away for good is replacement by vastly better technology or assets.

With interest rates in steady state rates, people would choose wisely if it's better to stash money into a regular savings account or into void of cryptoschemes with occassional jackpot.

I agree - the replacement is better assets, such as cash. When it is priced reasonably again.

P.S. Also, as a cryptographer: writing "high level" cryptography code in anything besides Rust is an unnecessary pain honestly. It just makes the work saner and manageable. Think of it like writing C with another set of eyes looking over you for mistakes.

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