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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by greatwhitenorth on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @06:43PM (#31511780)
India has 4 times the population of US and I've never heard or read about a school shooting or a mass shooting. There is way worse poverty, mental illness, lawlessness, corruption at every level in India. The only difference is easy access to guns. Not sure why it's so difficult for gun worshippers in US to understand this.
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by deltree7 on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @07:49PM (#31512417)
What about statistics about rape, violence, thefts, invasions, random-beating-up?

If the victims of these crimes had guns(or threat of having a gun), what would the statistics look like?

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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by greatwhitenorth on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @09:44PM (#31513268)
The security guard with the gun at the school couldn't even stop the shooter in the recent shooting and got killed. Same with the security guard in the Buffalo shooting. Someone with multiple AR-15s is still going to murder your whole family.
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by jstream67 on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:41PM (#31513719)
"There is way worse poverty, mental illness, lawlessness, corruption at every level in India. The only difference is easy access to guns."

Sounds like we should keep the guns ??

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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by greatwhitenorth on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:53PM (#31513815)
Your comprehension skills are extra ordinary, keep the guns.
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by throwawaylinux on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:15PM (#31513464)
Why would you claim India is almost identical to the USA except for this one variable (which seems like a laughable simplification anyway), and not, say, El Salvador or Serbia? Seems like a classic case of searching for data that confirms your opinion.
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by greatwhitenorth on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:37PM (#31513673)
Seems like you're incapable of comprehension and searching for something that I never said.
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by throwawaylinux on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:39PM (#31513694)
I'm not, you clearly claimed that access to guns was the only difference between USA and India.

> The only difference is easy access to guns.

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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by greatwhitenorth on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:42PM (#31513728)
You missed the other part, try reading.
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by throwawaylinux on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:44PM (#31513745)
No I didn't.

You're unwilling to explain why you chose India, and unable to accept the data from other countries that invalidates your simplistic "theory".

Well, at least now you understand how people can hold on to beliefs despite easily available data which contradicts them.

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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by greatwhitenorth on Thursday May 26, 2022 @12:56AM (#31514761)
You clearly don't understand. Well, I hope you at least now understand how people can hold on to their biases that will make them not read and comprehend.
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by colechristensen on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:36PM (#31513660)
India:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India

China, with knives:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/06/09/china/china-knife-attacks...

These things happen everywhere, aren’t necessarily reported in the same way.

One part of why they are so prevalent in America is how each event becomes such a cultural focus, half of what I’ve seen on social media has been people posting about this event. Perpetuating the idea by giving it such attention must be part of the cause that people go out and do these things.

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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by MisterBastahrd on Thursday May 26, 2022 @12:59AM (#31514777)
Yet they aren't a cultural focus.

How many mass shootings have taken place in the US this year?

10? 20?

Try 213.

243 deaths, 922 injuries.

This month? 44 mass shootings. 61 deaths, 219 injured.

These things don't happen everywhere. They happen here because guns make them easy. People hate facts and so they pretend that everyone has the same problems.

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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by colechristensen on Thursday May 26, 2022 @01:22AM (#31514918)
That really depends on your definition of mass shooting, and you seem to be quoting a statistic which uses a very broad definition.

The kind of thing that happened in Texas has not happened 44 times this month.

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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by colechristensen on Thursday May 26, 2022 @10:20AM (#31518638)
A disturbed person going into public and randomly killing strangers is a different problem than gang warfare, domestic violence, organized crime, or organized terrorism.
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by MisterBastahrd on Thursday May 26, 2022 @11:13AM (#31519333)
People deserve the right to safety regardless of where they are.
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by hunterb123 on Thursday May 26, 2022 @12:40PM (#31520481)
Exactly, which is why I carry and support the 2A.
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by greatwhitenorth on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:41PM (#31513718)
What about first world nations like Australia, New Zealand? They too are not reported in the same way?
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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by colechristensen on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:54PM (#31513830)
Australia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_crimes_in_...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10629425/amp/Everyo...

> Stabbings have never been worse or more brutal, police say, as Australian hospitals struggle to cope with an emerging 'knife culture' amongst young men.

There are certainly differences in rates, but these things happen everywhere.

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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by greatwhitenorth on Thursday May 26, 2022 @07:05AM (#31516945)
If I tell you nuclear weapons should be eliminated from the world as they're dangerous and can wipe off cities, are you going to come back with statistics about how tanks kill people? Your arguments are exactly that.
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