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Re:History of 127/8 as localhost/loopback addresses (2021) by judge2020 on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @09:12AM (#31504026)
This is why the ISP routers and modems have all introduced remote updates from the ISP, sometimes going further with extra telemetry[0]. Not a great situation for those with the technical knowledge, but I don't think we can expect people to upgrade their router FW on their own.

0: https://old.reddit.com/r/ATT/comments/mqfy9a/just_got_our_ne...

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Re:History of 127/8 as localhost/loopback addresses (2021) by wyager on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @11:19AM (#31505805)
I was pissed to learn that arris DOCSIS modems do not allow you, the owner, to install firmware updates or adjust most settings. Only the ISP gets to do that.
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Re:History of 127/8 as localhost/loopback addresses (2021) by X-Istence on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @01:00PM (#31507248)
That's because bandwidth caps are enforced by the cable modem and not further downstream. When you pay for 10 Mbps down, 1 Mbps up, that is enforced by the cable modem.

Earlier versions of cable modems had flaws that allowed consumers to push configs on the ethernet port and uncap their cable modems and gain higher speeds than they had paid for.

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Re:History of 127/8 as localhost/loopback addresses (2021) by bell-cot on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @03:34PM (#31509439)
If the ISP could add a paragraph to their T&C's, then monitor the speed...

"Thank you for upgrading your service to our VVVIP Price Tier! Your first three months as a VVVIP customer is 50% off..."

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Re:History of 127/8 as localhost/loopback addresses (2021) by vlan0 on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @05:24PM (#31510774)
>If the ISP could add a paragraph to their T&C's, then monitor the speed...

They did, but the overhead at the time was high. And they generally didn't peruse unless you were causing trouble....or slipped up on OPSEC.

Cable ISP network security back in the day was horrid. SNMP string would get leaked. With that you could snmpwalk the entire node you were on. It was amusing.

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Re:History of 127/8 as localhost/loopback addresses (2021) by wyager on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @02:05PM (#31508231)
Yep, what a silly design. I almost want to hack it out of spite.
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Re:History of 127/8 as localhost/loopback addresses (2021) by accountofme on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @11:25PM (#31514088)
That is true, there are people who use an ISP modem/router but what of the ones who don't, what of the android TV or phone is that doesn't get updates, what of that winxp/vista/7 computer that won't be upgraded.......?

There are so many other devices out there that are required for this change to work, it is insane to think it could be done.

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