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Re:The Economics of Bike Lanes by sliverstorm on Monday October 24, 2011 @12:48PM (#3150397)
The bias in both these comments is so thick I could cut it with a knife. One can barely ride a bicycle; one wishes he didn't own a car.
Re:The Economics of Bike Lanes by hugh3 on Monday October 24, 2011 @02:17PM (#3150821)
My perspective: I both cycle and drive quite a lot.

When I'm driving, I hate cyclists, and when I'm cycling I hate drivers. Both groups are filled with complete freaking idiots who shouldn't be allowed onto the roads under any circumstances.

Re:The Economics of Bike Lanes by PaulHoule on Monday October 24, 2011 @03:23PM (#3151120)
Cyclists don't just conflict with cars, they conflict with Pedestrians.

I've been hit by cyclists more than once. (And OK, I hit a pedestrian when I was riding a bike back when I was a teenager too.)

Walking in L.A. I experience near-misses with cyclists riding illegally on the sidewalk about as often as I experience near-misses from people running red lights when I'm in a car.

Re:The Economics of Bike Lanes by bkor on Monday October 24, 2011 @05:32PM (#3151696)
I guess there are not enough bike lanes?
Re:The Economics of Bike Lanes by protomyth on Monday October 24, 2011 @10:12PM (#3152499)
I had a friend in college hit by a bike while he was walking on the sidewalk. There was a clear area for the biker to ride other than the sidewalk. Serious recovery time was required (almost blew his whole semester).
Re:The Economics of Bike Lanes by Jun8 on Monday October 24, 2011 @01:32PM (#3150624)
Couldn't understand why you are referring to my comment as "biased", I was trying to portray how bikers are seen from the viewpoint of the non-avid-biker pedestrians. Do you think my points were wrong or made-up? If so, it would be more useful to comment on those aspects.
Re:The Economics of Bike Lanes by polymatter on Monday October 24, 2011 @02:32PM (#3150897)
Well everyone has a bias as everybody has a different perspective on the world. That you can't appreciate biking (through your own choice or no), makes yours particularly "thick" (in the context of biking).

I also think its not unusual for people in this thread to be able to drive, and thus the need to portray how bikers are seen largely unnecessary (in my view). Drivers are the majority, and even keen cyclists will probably be drivers too.

As an occasional cyclist, I get particularly annoyed with bad cyclists when I'm driving, as I feel they bring me down with them by association.

Re:The Economics of Bike Lanes by sliverstorm on Monday October 24, 2011 @02:24PM (#3150860)
I personally tend to agree with your points, but that aside what I was noticing is you and my parent basically arrive at opposite conclusions with a strong conviction in your beliefs, and "coincidentally" both of your POV's align with your primary, chosen form of transportation.

You both make some valid points; I don't use 'bias' to imply you are wrong. Rather, bias affects the process by which you examine and evaluate your points.

Re:The Economics of Bike Lanes by Jun8 on Monday October 24, 2011 @02:58PM (#3151002)
I believe you (along with many commentators) assume that my primary mode of transport is driving, since nowhere in my comment I refer to drivers. I was commenting on sharing sidewalks and streets with bikers as a pedestrian. There were many times for me when, at a stop sign, a car stops, I start to cross, and nearly run into a biker who ignored the sign, this is what I was referring to in teh part about stop signs.
Re:The Economics of Bike Lanes by msellout on Monday October 24, 2011 @01:47PM (#3150688)
You could also call it, "opinion," instead of, "bias."