Cat S22 Flip Phone

Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by andai on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @01:59PM (#31495389)

>infrared sensors

Thermal imaging! How cool is that!

https://www.catphones.com/en-gb/features/integrated-thermal-...

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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by kipchak on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @05:13PM (#31497592)

There are a couple companies (Seek, FLIR) that make attachments for iOS/Android also, though having it integrated is definitely nicer.

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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by ChikkaChiChi on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @05:19PM (#31497642)

I purchased one a few years back. The lack of range and incredibly low frame rate make it virtually useless for anything more than a few feet away. I think it's meant mostly to upsell to the more expensive handhelds.

Frankly, I'm shocked we haven't seen an alternative in this segment

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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by flir on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @09:00PM (#31499450)

The frame rate is a US government limitation. Turns out they get huffy if you start selling high-frame-rate (defined as >9fps?) LWIR cameras.

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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by aidenn0 on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @11:08PM (#31500166)

Is that because it would ease creating all aspect heat seeking weapons?

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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by H8crilA on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @11:58PM (#31500466)

Yes, and particularly because some of the, hmm, "good" players out there still haven't developed domestic capabilities. I'm talking about Russia.

This is the kind of stuff that should've been completely sanctioned for decades. It's just completely fucked up to find western IR sensors in guided ammunition used against civilians in Ukraine.

EDIT: details: https://infraredcameras.com/thermal-camera-export-restrictio...

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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by sebcat on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @01:11AM (#31500832)

ITAR, described in the link, is one thing. There is also the Wassenaar arrangement[1].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassenaar_Arrangement

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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by aidenn0 on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @03:43PM (#31509554)

Doesn't Russia have the AA-11 (R-73)?

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Some brief research indicates that the AIM-9X and ASRAAM may both have wider off-boresight and IRCCM compared to the AA-11, with the IR sensor possibly contributing to this.

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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by H8crilA on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @11:57PM (#31500458)

Decent infrared sensors are actually rather expensive. On top of that, the even better ones are under export controls because Russia is so bad at this game that they cannot manufacture their own sensors, thus banning exports actually makes a difference. Many of the intelligent missiles destroying Ukraine have French or other components in them. Same goes for fire control systems in tanks, or goggles used by infantry or pilots.

EDIT: details: https://infraredcameras.com/thermal-camera-export-restrictio...

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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by unwind on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @02:10PM (#31495527)

Or how hot!

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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by 0x38B on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @03:13AM (#31501471)

Clive (yt: bigclivedotcom) uses his CAT and now Blackview phones to check electronics for hotspots, etc. He reviewed them in depth:

- "One year test of the CAT S61 thermal imaging phone." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex7mNzhZN9A

- "Independent Blackview BV9900 Pro 4-month review (non shill)." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5n7oE2K__4

I would love a phone with a FLIR sensor but definitely don't need it.

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