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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by wffurr on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @11:52AM (#31493677)
T-Mobile coverage and speeds are great. Also it's a GSM phone and probably works with other carriers if you purchase it outright.
Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by pjerem on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @11:54AM (#31493700)
> T-Mobile coverage and speeds are great.

Not in EU :D

Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by CharlesW on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @12:04PM (#31493823)
I don't know how pricing compares to local brands, but T-Mobile is majority-owned by Deutsche Telekom. I imagine this explains a related benefit:

"With our Magenta plans, you get unlimited texting and data in 210+ countries & destinations. No international data-roaming charges. No setup. It just works the minute you arrive."

https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/roaming

Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by username190 on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @12:33PM (#31494238)
In the fine print, that page notes that international data is limited to 128kbps (or 256kbps if you're on the top-tier 'MAX' plan).

Phones that are designed for (or sold through) T-Mobile US won't necessarily work on T-Mobile NL, because they operate on different frequency bands, take advantage of different CA combos (combining different frequency bands for better coverage/speed), etc. The phone would likely also be locked to T-Mobile US for a period of time after purchase.

Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by CharlesW on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @12:45PM (#31494435)
> In the fine print…

Good catch!

> The phone would likely also be locked to T-Mobile US for a period of time after purchase.

Looks like 40 days: https://www.t-mobile.com/responsibility/consumer-info/polici...

> Phones that are designed for (or sold through) T-Mobile US won't necessarily work on T-Mobile NL…

Supported network bands according to https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=6464:

  LTE   4G
  band 1 / 2100 MHz         IMT (Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel)
  band 2 / 1900 MHz         PCS (Americas)
  band 3 / 1800 MHz         DCS (Europe, Asia, Africa)
  band 4 / 1700 MHz         AWS (Americas)
  band 5 / 850 MHz          Cellular (Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel)
  band 7 / 2600 MHz         IMT-E (Canada, South America, Europe, Asia)
  band 12 / 700 MHz         Lower 700 (USA)
  band 13 / 750 MHz         Upper 700 (USA (Verizon))
  band 20 / 800 MHz         EU Digital Dividend (Europe)
  band 25 / 1900 MHz        PCS+G (USA (T-Mobile))
  band 26 / 850 MHz         Extended Cellular (USA (T-Mobile))
  band 28 / 700 MHz         APT (Oceana, Asia, Central America)
  band 38 / 2600 MHz        IMT-E (Europe, Latin America, Asia)
  band 39 / 1900 MHz        DCS–IMT Gap (China)
  band 40 / 2300 MHz        (Asia, Africa, Oceana)
  band 41 / 2500 MHz        BRS / EBS (USA (T-Mobile))
  band 66 / 1700 MHz        AWS-3 (Americas)
  band 71 / 600 MHz         600 (USA (T-Mobile))

  WCDMA   3G
  band 1 (I) / 2100 MHz     IMT (Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel)
  band 2 (II) / 1900 MHz    PCS (Americas)
  band 4 (IV) / 1700 MHz    AWS (Americas)
  band 5 (V) / 850 MHz      Cellular (Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel)
  band 8 (VIII) / 900 MHz   (Europe, Asia, Africa)

  CDMA   2G / 3G
  band 27 / BC10 / 800 MHz  ESMR (Americas (T-Mobile))
  band 5 / BC0 / 850 MHz    Cellular (Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel)
  band 2 / BC1 / 1900 MHz   PCS (Americas)

  GSM   2G
  band 5 / 850 MHz          Cellular (Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel)
  band 8 / 900 MHz          (Europe, Asia, Africa)
  band 3 / 1800 MHz         DCS (Europe, Asia, Africa)
  band 2 / 1900 MHz         PCS (Americas)
Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by Tijdreiziger on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @12:19PM (#31494043)
No problems in the Netherlands. They like to pride themselves on being the country’s best network.
Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by pjerem on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @02:23PM (#31495731)
Ok that was not my point and I forgot that the T-Mobile brand existed in some EU countries. But my point was that the phone wasn’t available outside of the US.