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Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by Fnoord on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @05:55AM (#31490023)
I grew up with a Miele vacuum cleaner (my parents were all about Miele). Only disadvantage is they last so long that newer hardware is potentially more energy efficient. I don't get the point of wireless vacuum cleaner except autonomic ones and in niches where you don't have electricity (like an area where the electricity is often down). Having recently owned some different brands (Samsung, Beko) which broke down got us back te Miele again.
Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by Shaanie on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @06:10AM (#31490123)
Have you ever used a wireless vacuum? It may sound stupid, but it saves significant time and effort over a conventional vacuum; taking the clunky vacuum out, plugging it in, unplugging it and putting it back means it takes (much) more than twice as long to do spot vacuuming.

Personally I'm never going back to a corded vacuum if I can avoid it.

Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by wlesieutre on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @07:09AM (#31490503)
Not even mentioning the cord management? You just vacuum where you want to vacuum and don’t have to drag a cord behind you and throw it around to keep it out of the way of being run over.
Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by PetitPrince on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @06:28AM (#31490211)
This!

The friction to use a cordless vacuum is very low compared to a corded one. And consequently, vacuuming change from being a chore that's done once few weeks for a an hour to some short 5-10 minutes burst every few days.

Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by mr-debil on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @09:19AM (#31491693)
They're talking Miele, which most likely means canister vacuums. The two of you have very different mentality / approaches to vacuuming...and that's totally OK.
Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by oxplot on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @10:10AM (#31492345)
> I don't get the point of wireless vacuum cleaner

The point of anything cordless is how it eliminates the hassle of, well, dealing with cords. In case of a vacuum cleaner, one has to:

- pull the cord out

- plug and re-plug it

- ensure it doesn't get stuck around the corners and under furniture legs

- ensure it doesn't pull some other furniture and topple them over

In addition, corded vacuums have practically no power envelope or weight restrictions, so they end up being bulky, heavy and loud, even if the context in which they are used doesn't require the power.

Dyson cordless (I can't speak to any other) in contrast:

- weighs lot less and can be carried around with ease

- can be moved around without a second thought of where the cord is or whether it can be maneuvered in a certain way

- is a lot quieter (can be used at night)

- is instantly accessible without any setup so it makes sense to use it for a few seconds to clean something up

- can be used outside of the house where there is no power outlet - e.g. in the car in a rental apartment parking

Since I switched to cordless (which has been 6 years or so), I no longer dread vacuuming. It's actually a pleasant experience and sometimes, when I get a few minutes, I do a clean of areas that get dirty often (entrance).

The battery life and the power available have improved to the point where it's no longer something I worry about (especially for my two bedroom apartment).

Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by esaym on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @11:15AM (#31493189)
I've never used or even looked at Dyson, but the problem with most vacuums is how the vacuum itself slowly falls apart until it is no longer usable (even though the motor still has years of life left). For years I rocked a 1986 rainbow I bought off of ebay in 2003 for $200. But found myself using it less and less since it is big and you have to fill it with water each time.

Bought a Shark upright that I used in between my more thorough weekly rainbow vacuumings. But the shark was slowly falling apart, and you can't buy replacement parts and there are so many models, that finding used parts is not really possible either.

So I did the "buy once, cry once" routine and bought a Sebo E2 canister. Like many other European brands, parts are easily available and you no longer have a disposable product which is a win in my case.

Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by hetspookjee on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @10:19AM (#31492461)
You most definitely cannot use the Dyson V7 at night as it’s really loud, especially noticeable is the very high pitched sound.
Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by oxplot on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @10:20AM (#31492477)
I pack a V10 :) - Also, I didn't mean using it at night next to someone sleeping. But rather, as not to awaken your neighbors.
Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by blagie on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @07:26AM (#31490637)
I'll be the contrarian. I have a Roomba and a Dyson cordless. I'm very happy, and my home is much cleaner than with my old industrial-grade vacuum:

- The Roomba goes once a day. It doesn't pick up much in one pass, but my house is much cleaner because it runs all the time. Covering the same spot many times, it does well.

- The Dyson cleans very well, and picks up all the places the Roomba doesn't get to or emergency spills. It's never run out of batteries.

On the whole, it's less effort and cleaner than with my old big'un vacuum.

And if I want to do a deep clean, I'd rather wash in either case.

Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by Lio on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @11:56AM (#31493731)
One thing to keep in mind is filtration.

I currently own a Dyson cordless for vacuuming the mattress when I change the sheets, a Bosch class M industrial vacuum and a Miele from before the dawn of time.

I’ve previously owned a Roomba.

I have the Bosch as a workshop vacuum and if I need to clean up something I don’t want blowing back into the air it’s the one I use. Eg brick dust or MDF dust.

Both my Dyson and my old Roomba were bagless and when you empty them it goes all over place.

I also don’t trust the filtering on them. They say hepa filters but that doesn’t mean it’s not leakng out case somewhere.

You only get one set of lungs so if it maters to you get something better than a Dyson.

My Miele still works well but I don’t trust the filtering on thar either.

Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by blagie on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @11:35AM (#31506043)
When I did the vacuuming myself, I had a sealed, true HEPA system. It made a big difference. For the Roomba, I'm not sure it matters. I'm never around when the Roomba is running. I run it when I'm running errands or picking kids up from school. Or I'll run it in a bedroom when I'm in the office or vice-versa. I don't like the noise. Since COVID, I also have a HEPA filter in each room.

If the Roomba kicks anything up:

- If it lands back on the carpet, it will get it on the next pass.

- If it doesn't land on the carpet, the air filter will get it.

My allergies are a lot better with this setup than what I had before.

However, the Dyson has a HEPA filter, but it's definitely not a sealed HEPA filter or "true" HEPA. Air goes around. The air coming out smells dusty. It's fine because it's only for things which the Roomba can't get to, but I'd be very unhappy with it as my sole vacuum cleaner. For what it does, it's super-convenient.

I should also mention: I have a carpet washing machine too. I rarely use it (much less than I should), but it's a huge step up.

Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by germinalphrase on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @10:54AM (#31492913)
I’ve always been interested in Roombas for this use case, but reviews have always pointed toward “fun for a hobbiest, but utility doesn’t outweigh drawbacks”. Have they gotten better in recent years?
Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by blagie on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @11:25AM (#31505891)
I don't know what older Roombas were like, but mine does a really good job.

It doesn't pick up a lot of trash on one pass, but it makes many passes. Even with many passes, it sometimes misses stuff that my old big vacuum would have picked up, but I run it every day or every other day.

The carpets stay really, really clean.

A side benefit -- to me -- is that I need to keep the floors Roomba-ready. If you leave laundry, cables, etc. on the floor, you've got a problem. YMMV if you have family; with some visitors, I can't use the Roomba at all.

Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by cronix on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @12:30PM (#31494207)
Funnily enough, the cord was the thing that eventually wore out due to normal use and needed to be replaced several times on all of our vacuums growing up. It's trivial to fix, but most don't know how and didn't want to lug a big heavy vacuum to a repair shop and just end up getting a new vacuum. I enjoy not tripping all over a cord or constantly having to tug it out of the way of where I want to vacuum. I enjoy not having to constantly plug/unplug it while moving from room to room when I run out of cord. I enjoy not having to wind the cord up after every use. It's so easy to clean the car and not have to weave the cord everywhere. I enjoy not having wear marks from the cord in the paint of the floor trim, which happens a lot in doorways as they protrude inward from the wall, or any time you go around a corner and pull the cord.
Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by Gigachad on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @06:25AM (#31490195)
I switched from a Dyson corded vacuum to a Samsung battery powered one and it’s amazing. I’ll never go back to wired vacuums. My parents have a Dyson battery powered one and it is garbage.
Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by oxplot on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @10:14AM (#31492390)
Dyson constantly improved their cordless vacuums in the past 6 years. I have a V10 which is leaps and bounds better than V7. The battery runs forever, the bin is larger and empties cleanly without meddling, has a great weight distribution and it's more powerful.
Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by thinkmassive on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @12:29PM (#31494191)
Even with newer models available, the V10 still seems to hit the sweet spot of high performance without extra weight.

The newer models offer larger batteries and debris capacity, and higher power (suction), but as you mentioned the V10 has been plenty for my household, so they don’t seem worth the extra weight let alone expense.

I previously had a V7 that worked well enough in a smaller home for a few years. After the battery started deteriorating I replaced it with an aftermarket one, but that was slightly larger so it no longer fit in the charging dock. Now the V7 lives in a campervan where it’s still plenty useful.

Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by brnt on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @03:22PM (#31496435)
Bought a house with a 30 year old Siematic kitchen... it all works, but maybe after 30 years you dont need it to work anymore. It's loud and not very energy efficient, and 30 years will leave some grime in places where toothbrushes don't go.

Our next kitchen won't be a Siematic.

Re:Unofficial firmware upgrade for Dyson V6/V7 vacuum batter... by Consultant32452 on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @07:06AM (#31490477)
I have one of each and the cordless is the go-to for spot cleaning spills and vacuuming the stairs. My Miele canister vacuum is amazing, but a relative hassle.