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Re:Why America has so few carpenters by lotsofpulp on Saturday May 21, 2022 @11:15PM (#31464572)
> We already have a cost of living crisis, and raising the price of fruit and vegetables by removing these visas for seasonal workers seems like it would hurt everyone without helping anyone in particular.

It helps local labor sellers to be in higher demand and hence negotiate higher prices who may have taken the option to pick fruit and vegetables.

Re:Why America has so few carpenters by laingc on Saturday May 21, 2022 @11:50PM (#31464739)
I understand that argument, but the very high minimum wage and availability of state support means that in practice there is no market-clearing price for this labour. New Zealanders simply don’t want to do these jobs.
Re:Why America has so few carpenters by rdtwo on Sunday May 22, 2022 @09:49AM (#31468166)
The is a price but regulators cap it off. It may not be a good business but a lot of things aren’t a good business if you actually have to pay market wages.
Re:Why America has so few carpenters by MichaelZuo on Sunday May 22, 2022 @12:26PM (#31469894)
I would bet quite a bit of money that if you start paying $100/hour, start selling fruit at luxury prices, and ban all cheaper imported fruit, the market will clear very quickly. Then again the government may lose the next election because of that.
Re:Why America has so few carpenters by ftyers on Sunday May 22, 2022 @12:35AM (#31464910)
So maybe those jobs shouldn't be done? It doesn't sound like a complete disaster ...
Re:Why America has so few carpenters by chrisdave on Sunday May 22, 2022 @01:56AM (#31465261)
Or maybe having them done by people who are willing to do them would be good.
Re:Why America has so few carpenters by laingc on Sunday May 22, 2022 @02:33AM (#31465460)
That’s exactly right. There’s no market-clearing price because of regulatory distortion. You’re free to like or dislike that as a policy, but it is clear that it removes the information value of the price signal.